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when Nintendo proves the system can sell with their IPs devs say they can't sell games because of Nintendo IPs and when Nintendo gives them room and not release their IPs, 3rd parties don't sell because the system did not have many Nintendo games to sell it. now Nintendo has to sell the system with their IPs so 3rd parties can sell their games -_-


this is fucked up!



    R.I.P Mr Iwata :'(

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twilight_link said:
bestselling games on Nintendo platforms are mostly from Nintendo, games from WiiU launch are either horrible ports (Batman, ME3), outside of Nintendo demographics (CoD) or mediocre efforts (ZombiU)

for me Lego is first true test of new Nintendo platform, if this game will have great score but fails on retail, then Nintendo has big problem, until this we deal with very well known lies and excuses.

Don't forget over-priced ...

Had games like Batman or Mass Effect been a collection of all games released in the last generation, selling them for $60 would seem reasonable to most people; but "old" ports of games should not be sold for full price even if they're on a new platform.



There´s nothing surprising here, it´s been that way ever since the N64.The Wii U, just like the N64, GC and Wii, will live on Nintendo games (and a handful of 3rd party games).

Knowing what to expect, I´m sure I´ll be happy with the system when I get it later this year..problem is, every time Nintendo launches a new home console, some Nintendo fans always seem to have some mid to high expectations that this time it´ll be different, that they´ll finally get great 3rd party support back, just like the NES/SNES days.

Personally, I have no illusions, I´m not emotionally and financially vested in the system so it´s not a big deal..though I do understand people who are pissed at the situation, be it because they don´t want to own more than one system or for some other reasons, yeah I understand, but sadly the truth of situation is Nintendo will never get great 3rd party support as long as Sony and MS are around, and even if they were to exit the videogame business, who´d guarantee those 3rd parties would embrace Nintendo?..maybe/probably they´d flock to whatever else is in the market at the time.

So, expectations...if one expects nothing from 3rd parties on Nintendo home consoles, then odds are he/she will be happy with the system, unless even Nintendo´s own games disappoint, which was my case concerning the GameCube, the only Nintendo games I enjoyed for the system were SSBM, Metroid Prime and Wind Waker, and that makes it the 'worst' Nintendo system I´ve ever owned.With the Wii it was different, I really enjoyed most of the 1st party games, and now I can only hope they deliver with their games for the Wii U.



It's a troublesome situation. They're not going to delay PS3/360 games for a Wii U version and late Wii U ports don't sell. Likewise, the Wii U hasn't proven that third-party exclusives are worthwhile.

The only real solution is for Nintendo to pull up the installed base for the Wii U with their own software. Until that happens, publishers and developers are going to largely stay away.

In the future, I think Nintendo is going to have to alter their strategy to front load their launch window with Nintendo games in order to make a more inviting space for third-party games later.



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HappySqurriel said:
twilight_link said:
bestselling games on Nintendo platforms are mostly from Nintendo, games from WiiU launch are either horrible ports (Batman, ME3), outside of Nintendo demographics (CoD) or mediocre efforts (ZombiU)

for me Lego is first true test of new Nintendo platform, if this game will have great score but fails on retail, then Nintendo has big problem, until this we deal with very well known lies and excuses.

Don't forget over-priced ...

Had games like Batman or Mass Effect been a collection of all games released in the last generation, selling them for $60 would seem reasonable to most people; but "old" ports of games should not be sold for full price even if they're on a new platform.


agree



HappySqurriel said:
twilight_link said:
bestselling games on Nintendo platforms are mostly from Nintendo, games from WiiU launch are either horrible ports (Batman, ME3), outside of Nintendo demographics (CoD) or mediocre efforts (ZombiU)

for me Lego is first true test of new Nintendo platform, if this game will have great score but fails on retail, then Nintendo has big problem, until this we deal with very well known lies and excuses.

Don't forget over-priced ...

Had games like Batman or Mass Effect been a collection of all games released in the last generation, selling them for $60 would seem reasonable to most people; but "old" ports of games should not be sold for full price even if they're on a new platform.

i wonder why some nintendo fans don't understand that when it comes to rayman. it's exactly the same, 360 and ps3 onwers wouldn't buy it because it would be a port of an "old" game exactly like mass effect for wii u. but if ubisoft releases it at the same time on all platforms full price is fair for them then.



Roma said:
when Nintendo proves the system can sell with their IPs devs say they can't sell games because of Nintendo IPs and when Nintendo gives them room and not release their IPs, 3rd parties don't sell because the system did not have many Nintendo games to sell it. now Nintendo has to sell the system with their IPs so 3rd parties can sell their games -_-


this is fucked up!


You know very well that this is considered a conspiracy theory by people who don't own Nintendo consoles.



 

 

Ouch. Is this what's going on behind the scenes? It would really explain a lot.



Cobretti2 said:
Roma said:
when Nintendo proves the system can sell with their IPs devs say they can't sell games because of Nintendo IPs and when Nintendo gives them room and not release their IPs, 3rd parties don't sell because the system did not have many Nintendo games to sell it. now Nintendo has to sell the system with their IPs so 3rd parties can sell their games -_-


this is fucked up!


You know very well that this is considered a conspiracy theory by people who don't own Nintendo consoles.

I´ve believed those 'theories' for a long time, though I can´t blame people for not believing, as some of them are indeed absurd (such as EA sabotaging their own games in order to justify to investors why it´s not worth it to develop for Nintendo systems).