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Kid Icarus, and they arent watered down versions. 3D Mario Land is also a original mario title that I own. Nintendo games are able to fit in the handheld market easier because the accessibility




       

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forevercloud3000 said:
Chandler said:
Pullblox, Fallblox, Dillons Rolling Western, Hana Samurai, Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask, Denpa Men, Heroes of Ruin, Mutant Mudds, Mighty Switch Force, Picross e are the ones that I have. What's the point of this thread again?

Can you tell me a bit about them? and also rate them on their quality as you see them as well.

The point will become apparent as we go along....


Dude, most of those games were released on the DS too. Layton is on iOS i believe?

He's not matching your hard-to-match criteria neither.



forevercloud3000 said:

have you played any of those games on Vita? I mean U:GA,ACIII:L,Super Stardust Delta, Wipeout 2048,PSASBR even CoD:Dec?

I'm going to guess and say you haven't, but even if you have many who claim what you do have not yet boast that rhetoric like its gospel. Yet when speaking of the Nintendo titles its always rainbows and sunshine.

Can you dispute what I said, though? That's not a challenge, merely a question. Naughty Dog built Uncharted. Ubisoft Montreal made Assassin's Creed. Treyarch (and that other company whose name escapes me right now) made Call of Duty. Were any of them extensively involved in making the Vita games, or were they farmed out? If the latter, were they farmed out to top-tier developers, or were they farmed out to B and C teams? These things make a difference.

For the record, the only game you've listed that I've tried is Uncharted. It thought it was fine, but it's not really my series, so...*shrug*. The reports on AC and CoD are widespread enough for me to believe that they are mostly true, however, although doubtless some people will enjoy those titles nonetheless.

And if those widespread reports aren't true, then you'll have to ask yourself why such misinformation is being spread so widely.

As an aside, I'm not entirely sure where speaking of Nintendo titles is "always rainbows and sunshine." Official Nintendo Magazine, perhaps, but beyond that I believe you may be approaching the subject matter with a jaundiced eye.



lurkerwithnosoul said:
forevercloud3000 said:
Chandler said:
Pullblox, Fallblox, Dillons Rolling Western, Hana Samurai, Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask, Denpa Men, Heroes of Ruin, Mutant Mudds, Mighty Switch Force, Picross e are the ones that I have. What's the point of this thread again?

Can you tell me a bit about them? and also rate them on their quality as you see them as well.

The point will become apparent as we go along....


Dude, most of those games were released on the DS too. Layton is on iOS i believe?

He's not matching your hard-to-match criteria neither.


Sorry have never heard of them before so I don't know. I just plugged some of them into Metacritic and VGC but got nothing. As long as they did not appear on main consoles. A DS series (Such as ProfLayton) is fine, just something like Mario who appeared on console first isn't. Sorry if I confused you. I will update OP to be more clear about that.



      

      

      

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lurkerwithnosoul said:
forevercloud3000 said:
Chandler said:
Pullblox, Fallblox, Dillons Rolling Western, Hana Samurai, Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask, Denpa Men, Heroes of Ruin, Mutant Mudds, Mighty Switch Force, Picross e are the ones that I have. What's the point of this thread again?

Can you tell me a bit about them? and also rate them on their quality as you see them as well.

The point will become apparent as we go along....


Dude, most of those games were released on the DS too. Layton is on iOS i believe?

He's not matching your hard-to-match criteria neither.


None of those games are from a console series ( the DS is not considered a console in this context).

None of those games have been directly ported from any other device.

They are all 3DS games or 3DSWare games.

None of those games or series are multiplatform. Mutant Mudds and Switch Force are on Wii U now but they originated on 3DS a long ass time ago so at the time of purchase they were indeed exclusive content.



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I'll just list some games that probably haven't been mentioned Sakura Samurai: Art of Sword, Ketzal's Corridors, and Freakyforms. Pretty much most of what Nintendo has published on the eshop (others mentioned Pushmo (Pullblox), Crashmo (Fallblox), Dillon's Rolling Western, etc). The Denpa Men is a pretty damn fine eshop game and it already has a sequel in Japan. The main 3DS retail game that I can think of is Heroes of Ruin which I enjoyed despite it not appealing to most people.



kitler53 said:
Kenology said:

This is the wrong question to ask though. Just because there are games from a series that exists on consoles and also a handheld, it doesn't mean the handheld version is a watered down version of the console counterpart.

For example: No way anyone can say Super Mario 3D Land is a watered down version of Super Mario Galaxy.

not calling you out as the problem, but vita gets a lot of critisim for that.  if a console franchise is an exact replica (PSASBR) then it is just a port and why would anyone want that on a handheld.   if a console franchise tailors the experience to the handheld (Uncharted:GA, ACIII:L) than it is just a watered down experience not worthy of its console cousin. 

vita's great games are, imo, unfairly dismissed because atm it is cool to hate on vita.  for those that have actually played the system .. then like you say with super mario 3d land .. there are some great games from existing franchises being made.  so in summary: the OP is a trap.

But the consensus seems to be that ACIII:L, COD:BD and Uncharted:GA aren't as good as their console counterparts.  And the blame for all that needs to be placed on Sony's shoulders, not anyone here on this forum anyways.  Sony ends commercials with "console quality on the go" - creating that expectation. 

Super Mario 3D Land has bite-sized levels that are perfect for gaming on the go.  By comparison, RE:R is a console game on a handheld, albeit a damn good one.  So 3DS isn't immune to this.  But Vita devs seem to try to make console type games on the go and that's the problem.

As far as the OP being a trap - well, the Vita has that perception and it deserves it.  Because Sony said so.

EDIT:  Also, Nintendo doesn't put B-Teams on handheld games.  Yes, NSMB2 was developed by newcomers, but it was still developed in-house at EAD.  Sony doesn't treat the Vita with that kind of respect.  Nintendo does not farm games out to shoddy devs.  This makes a huge difference.



Chandler said:
lurkerwithnosoul said:
forevercloud3000 said:
Chandler said:
Pullblox, Fallblox, Dillons Rolling Western, Hana Samurai, Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask, Denpa Men, Heroes of Ruin, Mutant Mudds, Mighty Switch Force, Picross e are the ones that I have. What's the point of this thread again?

Can you tell me a bit about them? and also rate them on their quality as you see them as well.

The point will become apparent as we go along....


Dude, most of those games were released on the DS too. Layton is on iOS i believe?

He's not matching your hard-to-match criteria neither.


None of those games are from a console series ( the DS is not considered a console in this context).

None of those games have been directly ported from any other device.

They are all 3DS games or 3DSWare games.

None of those games or series are multiplatform. Mutant Mudds and Switch Force are on Wii U now but they originated on 3DS a long ass time ago so at the time of purchase they were indeed exclusive content.


/Multiplats

Just playing by the OP rules. :p

He's just asking to not being answered basically. I believe this is to counter-attack Vita's criticism, so that's why OP came with this convoluted idea for a thread.



F0X said:
Interesting question. I typically don't considerer specific franchises to be better suited to consoles or handhelds, but I think certain genres are much easier to adapt to a handheld format. Platformers and RPGs have done exceptionally well in a portable format, as well as certain kinds of adventure and puzzle games. In contrast, I haven't played or seen a handheld shooter that controls particularly well, since current analog control solutions are still far from being console quality.

But to answer the question, I have many downloadable games that are either new IPs or are part of franchises originating on handhelds (Pushmo is especially brilliant). Retail-wise, the offering isn't great. 3DS also has a problem with some third-party developers trying to make games like Metal Gear Solid 3 work on a portable, and the results range from pretty decent to pretty mediocre. I think it takes some serious effort and willingness to change for a game to become an ideal handheld experience, and doubly so for genres that have yet to excel on handhelds.

Thats the thing though a game like pushmo is made by Intelligent Systems who has been making console and handheld games for Nintendo for over 20 years. They have the experience to pull off making great games for both platforms without alientnating each other.  The sames goes for pretty much all Japanese 3rd party developers.  They have been working hand in hand with Nintendo on making games specific to handhelds for at least two decades.  Konami can envision a castlevania game that fits a mobile setting in a heartbeat.  Same with Square and a RPG.  Most of Sony top studios are new at making games for handheld systems (or not making them at all), and alot of their 3rd party games (for Vita) are coming from the west (what western studio makes a decent handheld game outside rockstar?)  

Thats why the vita is failing as hard as it is, it doesnt have the vision from 3rd party japanese developers to carry the system forward and western developers are not going to waste their time making games for a platform (handhelds in general) when they can create the console equivelant.  The thing I do commend is that Sony's first and second party sudtios are starting to make enrodes in their ability to make a decent handheld game, hopefully the vita stays around long enough to see more of it.



noname2200 said:
forevercloud3000 said:

have you played any of those games on Vita? I mean U:GA,ACIII:L,Super Stardust Delta, Wipeout 2048,PSASBR even CoD:Dec?

I'm going to guess and say you haven't, but even if you have many who claim what you do have not yet boast that rhetoric like its gospel. Yet when speaking of the Nintendo titles its always rainbows and sunshine.

Can you dispute what I said, though? That's not a challenge, merely a question. Naughty Dog built Uncharted. Ubisoft Montreal made Assassin's Creed. Treyarch (and that other company whose name escapes me right now) made Call of Duty. Were any of them extensively involved in making the Vita games, or were they farmed out? If the latter, were they farmed out to top-tier developers, or were they farmed out to B and C teams? These things make a difference.

For the record, the only game you've listed that I've tried is Uncharted. It thought it was fine, but it's not really my series, so...*shrug*. The reports on AC and CoD are widespread enough for me to believe that they are mostly true, however, although doubtless some people will enjoy those titles nonetheless.

And if those widespread reports aren't true, then you'll have to ask yourself why such misinformation is being spread so widely.

As an aside, I'm not entirely sure where speaking of Nintendo titles is "always rainbows and sunshine." Official Nintendo Magazine, perhaps, but beyond that I believe you may be approaching the subject matter with a jaundiced eye.


none of the games i listed, except Cod, run like a watered down port. Every one of them embodies what the original console games established, while embracing the fact they are on handheld as well. What you are reading about many of these games is media confusion on how to interpret these games. They are not used to seeing these titles in smaller portable format and they don't know how to digest it, yet when it comes down to it they are just as fine tuned to being portable as any random NIN 3DS game.

So you've played Uncharted and didn't like it, that is fine. But lets not kid ourselves and say it was somekind of bad portable game. You just might not be all that into the series....which I think is really describes the situation as a whole. Mario and the like are not "better" games, just more popular due to their pedigree and just as highly favored on portable as they are on all nintendo consoles.



      

      

      

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