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Why do you think Gravity Rush is good?

Coz its from Sony Japan Studios 47 29.19%
 
Coz it looks really good 89 55.28%
 
Coz it has great reviews on Meta 22 13.66%
 
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creampie said:
Oniyide
the camera can be controlled with the d pad easily...
you are assuming pointing mechanics would suck even if you havent tried them on that game and then you just bitch about me giving my opinion about a game i havent played?

the Wiimote is better for aiming than the 2 sticks, the camera can be controlled with the d-p ad and...that was the extent of your argument, pretty weak imo......i believe this game could have been done better on the Wii, its my o`pinion, deal with it..


Im not assuming anything I called out those games cameras because I PLAYED them and they do suck. Controlling the camera with a dpad blows. Ive done it. 

I believe you are ignorant because you havent PLAYED the game, period. Thats not an opinion, deal with it. We're done here.



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michael_stutzer said:
kain_kusanagi said:
If the game is imperfect a 6.5 is an above average score. The only reason people get upset about 6s and 7s is they think a 10 point scale is like a grade school A,B,C,D,F. It's not. 5 would be a mediocre game, 6 would be better than average, 7 would be good, 8 would be great, 9 would be stellar, 10 would be an extremely rare perfect game with no flaws. Everything below 5 would be different shades of suck, but anything above 5 would be worth playing depending on a persons tastes.

Zelda SS is a 7 in my opinion. Gravity Rush is probably a legitimate 6. People need to stop getting all worked about about meta scores and .5s. And most of all the vast majority of gaming review websites need to use their entire 10 point grading system instead of just the top and bottom three numbers. It drives me crazy that truly shit games get 1-3 and mediocre to amazing games get 7-9 when the majority of games are really 4-6. There are so few perfect 10s that it should be shocking when a game scores it. The only game I've played in the last decade that I'd consider a 10 would be Portal 2 and that's because I prefer shorter games that can be enjoyed in small sessions.

I highly doubt Gravity Rush is the as good as Portal 2, but it also looks better than your average bargain bin game so 6.5 seems about right to me.

Seriously, you criticise people because they get worked up about meta scores and yet you do much worse, you talk shit about games you know nothing about. This is a much bigger problem. Gravity Rush was one of the best handheld games I've ever played and pretty much every people that played the game agree with that. 

And what "shit" did I talk? I explained in three paragraphs that in my opinion a 6 is an above average score. If Gravity Rush is good then getting anything above a 5 is good. I haven't played the game but I don't see how a 6.5 is a bad score. How good it is, is subjective. You think it's the best and someone else might think it's decent. The problem is too many gamers think anything below an 8 is a bad score. But in reality a review isn't negative until it dips below 5. I suggest that a 6 is a legitmently positive score and you think I'm bashing the game? This isn't grade school and it's not a A-F system, it's a 10 point system.

 Below is an example of how to break down the meaning behind a 10 point rating system.

The game "X Racing" is a racing game for all platforms.

Possible review scores for "X Racing":

 

10/10: Get this game even if you don't like racing games. It's one of the best games of the year, not just in the racing genre.

9/10: If you've ever enjoyed a racing game you'll like this.

8/10: A great racer, racing fans of most kinds will have fun.

7/10: Fun racer with a few flaws. If you're not a racing fan this won't change your mind.

6/10: An above average racing game with some flaws worth checking out.

5/10: Moderate to hardcore racing fans will find enjoyment, casual racing fans may want to rent first.

4/10: Only the most hardcore racing fans will want to try it, casual racing fans shouldn't bother.

3/10: Lots of flaws, don't bother unless you're really dying for another racing game.

2/10: So flawed that even the most hardcore racing fan won't be able to find any enjoyment.

1/10: Unplayable garbage.

 

When you look at the full spectrum of a 10 point system it's clear to me that a 6.5/10 is not a bad score.



Turkish said:
DepthAlly said:
Runa216 said:
I'm kind of offended by the poll on this thread. it would indicate that we're incapable of thinking for ourselves. I think Gravity Rush is good because I just finished beating it last night and getting Platinum on it this morning.


Yep, that's Turkish, as you probably know. The whole thread itself is pretty sad, though. He seems to be trying to make a point that a Sony game getting a lower review score is a bigger upset than a Nintendo game if as to say people care more about Sony games. I mean his basis is the number of comments, for crying out loud. The Zelda review didn't even allow comments for a while after the review was put up. There isn't a single review on GameSpot that has comments older than 6 months because they didn't allow it until just 6 months ago.


But that still doesn't change the fact that Gravity Rush review has more comments then Skyward Sword does it

What does it matter? The SS review was yesterdays news once comenting was available, just like this will be in a week. Had the SS review allowed comments the second it was put up you'd see just as many or more comments than the GR review.



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Chandler said:
Runa216 said:
creampie said:
I could accept an 8 score for Zelda SS, everything below that is just bias imo
and about Grvity ill say it could have been a great Wii title, the Wiimote seems perfect for it...


I dunno man, I played Skyward Sword (though I admit I'm only about halfway through), and I think a 7.5 is fair.  depending on the reviewer's personal opinion of motion controls, I could see a score as low as 6...personally, I hate the motion controls and that ruins the 'gameplay' category for me, and I think that its visuals and writing don't match up with the story its trying to tell, so the presentation score could easily be dropped, and over half the main game is filler and fetch-quests, so value could be dropped, too.  

Don't get me wrong, I like the game, but I can certainly see a 6.0-7.5 score easily.  

To be fair, that paragraph, slighty rewritten, could also fit quite nicely for Gravity Rush. The controls are kinda dodgy, some of the missions are superfluous and the gameplay gets kinda repeatitive. So I still don't think that a 6.5 is that outrageous.

The controls were great.  there was a lot to them, but the controls works perfectly in my time in Hekseville.  Some of the side missions were dumb, but they were optional; in skyward sword, you HAD to find the three plant dudes before the plant dude elder king guy remembered where Zelda was.  Optional sidequests are much better than forced fetchquests.  Nothing more to that.  

combat did get a bit repetitive, I admit, but really how is that different than ANY other game.  Call of Duty has you pointing and shooting at guys till the very end, with the occasional quick time event.  inFamous has you using the same powers to fight the same enemies over and over again.  most games ARE repetitive, it's the slight variation that makes it tolerable and the abilities Kat has mixed with the level design mean that every encounter is its own, despite the fact that you're probably using the same stable of about 3 moves over and over again.  



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Well it isn't as innovative as the yearly Call of Duty and isn't made for the US American so it doesn't deserve a 11/10 *trollface*



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DepthAlly said:
Turkish said:
DepthAlly said:
Runa216 said:
I'm kind of offended by the poll on this thread. it would indicate that we're incapable of thinking for ourselves. I think Gravity Rush is good because I just finished beating it last night and getting Platinum on it this morning.


Yep, that's Turkish, as you probably know. The whole thread itself is pretty sad, though. He seems to be trying to make a point that a Sony game getting a lower review score is a bigger upset than a Nintendo game if as to say people care more about Sony games. I mean his basis is the number of comments, for crying out loud. The Zelda review didn't even allow comments for a while after the review was put up. There isn't a single review on GameSpot that has comments older than 6 months because they didn't allow it until just 6 months ago.


But that still doesn't change the fact that Gravity Rush review has more comments then Skyward Sword does it

What does it matter? The SS review was yesterdays news once comenting was available, just like this will be in a week. Had the SS review allowed comments the second it was put up you'd see just as many or more comments than the GR review.

My thread is about Gamespot being fair or not, if you are here only to complain about when the comment section came into effect go make your own thread.



Turkish said:
DepthAlly said:
Turkish said:
DepthAlly said:
Runa216 said:
I'm kind of offended by the poll on this thread. it would indicate that we're incapable of thinking for ourselves. I think Gravity Rush is good because I just finished beating it last night and getting Platinum on it this morning.


Yep, that's Turkish, as you probably know. The whole thread itself is pretty sad, though. He seems to be trying to make a point that a Sony game getting a lower review score is a bigger upset than a Nintendo game if as to say people care more about Sony games. I mean his basis is the number of comments, for crying out loud. The Zelda review didn't even allow comments for a while after the review was put up. There isn't a single review on GameSpot that has comments older than 6 months because they didn't allow it until just 6 months ago.


But that still doesn't change the fact that Gravity Rush review has more comments then Skyward Sword does it

What does it matter? The SS review was yesterdays news once comenting was available, just like this will be in a week. Had the SS review allowed comments the second it was put up you'd see just as many or more comments than the GR review.

My thread is about Gamespot being fair or not, if you are here only to complain about when the comment section came into effect go make your own thread.

but that would be redundant.  So let's get this straight: this thread is only for troll hits, not for actual discussion? 



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Turkish said:
DepthAlly said:

What does it matter? The SS review was yesterdays news once comenting was available, just like this will be in a week. Had the SS review allowed comments the second it was put up you'd see just as many or more comments than the GR review.

My thread is about Gamespot being fair or not, if you are here only to complain about when the comment section came into effect go make your own thread.

Nope, came here to point out how stupid your topic title is. Though, I shouldn't expect much better from you.



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To be honest, even though it was the recipient of some pretty questionable reviews (the IGN one in particular - super short and with every single category an identical 7.5? Every damn one? Just lazy...) if it gets this level of controversy with American sites giving it lower scores, I'm happy for it because it will raise awareness about the game. I'd bet that some of those 600 commenters had not heard of the game before or considered buying it, and now may well do so. So, good for the game, really.

Anyway, at this point, video game scores have become a bit of a sick joke. Skyrim getting 90s with massive technical problems on the PS3 was just un-fucking believable, and Mass Effect 3's reviews being soooo out of sync with the reality of what die hard series fans thought about the game....

Unfortunately most of the press scores Western games in accordance with the level of hype surrounding them. It seems to me that reviewers put their fanboy hats on rather than their critical hats - their job is more about getting people excited for the game and going to fancy pre-launch events than accurately critiquing every aspect of it - more of a PR role than a critic.

Luckily we have more gameplay videos, demos and forum impressions than ever available to us these days, and so we can make judgements for ourselves. It's unfortunately the mainstream appeal that gets affected by big outlet's scores, and so niche games undeservedly get bitten on the ass, or "AAA" (ugh) games get a free pass, and this creates a harder environment for smaller games to find mainstream success. 



Oh these scores. I like to see my favorite games get awesome scores as much as the next guy but we cannot throw a hissy fit every time somebody goes below a 7. A 6.5 is decent. Do those people realize the scale goes from 0 - 10 and not 7 - 10?

Gravity Rush has a solid 84% on metacritic (which isn't the best measure of how good a game is but nevertheless) which means it is a great game. Not everybody like these types of games and most reviews in my opinion are in the end biased and subjective to a certain extent.



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