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So let me see if I understand correctly, PS3 is up 10k, and the 360 is down 18k YOY, and the comments we see is "360 will dominate the Holidays", hahahhaha.

Every time since the price drop, we see PS3 dominate, and all of a sudden, the "reality checkers" (as they like to call themselves) come in and say, that it doesn´t matter because it is down/flat YOY. Now all of sudden YOY don´t mean nothing for a console that is out for so long as the 360, and it actually means it will dominate.

On topic: Those are some huge numbers for the 360 as expected. People acting like they are huge unexpected numbers need to stop with the agendas. Just say it like it is, they are huge, but they are expected, based on all kinds of promotions, but most importantly, based on how huge the software releases were and how they preference the 360

Those are some good numbers for the PS3, expected, maybe people were expecting bigger ups for both the releases of U3 and MW3, but, people have to realise that for one, the U3 bundle will have the same effect the price drop had, it is not huge first week, but over time, it will be a very noticeable increase. And MW3 should have a bigger FW impact, but, fact of the matter is, from what I can tell, there is no MW3 bundled with PS3, and the people that want to play it, already have one most probably. You can´t compare it to the 360 jump, simply because there is a custom made console for it and all the advertisement is on the 360 version, so evidently, the rise will be bigger, as they have been, I mean look at last year....

Wii, disappointing, for the simple fact that being that cheap, I thought consumers would jump into that quickly, even without a lot of software, they are rising, but not as quick. I still think they can take December.

3ds just waiting to explode

Ds still in there strong

PSP just surviving and making Sony money

PS2 just a monster 50k in it´s 6969696969696969th week on the market

Next coming weeks...... HUGE



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sega4life said:
Said it before and again:

Xbox 360 + No Price Cut + Six Years Old + Half a Million Sales + Before Black Friday = AMAZING!

you know I've never understood this "no price cut" stuff

when the ps3 outsold the 360 being  $100-200 more, that's a impressive sales considering the price difference

but the 360 is currently one of, if not the least expensive console on the market and have been so since 2008, and has been at the mass market price point longer than any console this gen, ps3 JUST went below 300 dollars and it still isn't 199, but the 360 has been there since 08 and that's was *counts on fingers* 3 years ago (when the cheapest ps3 was $400)



I think PS3 is overtracked, xbox sold twice as much in America.. Oh wait America =/= world, and Eastern Europe =/= Europe altogether.

Good numbers, I personally saw the MW3 360 bundle, can't recall if I've seen LE of a PS3 console though, only 360.

MW3 pulls unbelievable numbers out of its ass tbh!



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nice 360. can't say it wasn't expected. well M5 looks like history repeated its self. expect 360 to be on top next wk. likely not by 100k but its possible.

Reach impressive numbers 100k. UC3 still holding its own. will sell 2m before yrs end. likely 300k again next wk.

the black friday war will be interesting. if MS was hoping for MW3 to give them the edge then in the second wk of Nov. its looking possible. the PS360 gap 2.6m. Dec. will be interesting to see. i'm looking forward to next wk to see if the Skyrim MW3 boost holds. last 2 wks of Nov. looks to go to MS.



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Reasonable said:
pezus said:
D-Joe said:
Shinobi-san said:
Now that i checked the region numbers i see 360 had a massive increase in EMEAA, while ps3 had a very minor increase...

well it dropped last week

and 40~50k gap not really close,and should be 100k+ again later

Considering it was 100k last week I think it's pretty close. As far as I know there wasn't a special edition 360 this week in EMEAA, or was there?

There was.  MW3 bundle in all main European countries I believe.  As I noted in a few of the prediction threads while MS is clearly looking to avoid an official RRP price drop they're going to use bundles and deals to effectively aggresively reduce the price to the consumer or appeal to the CoD fanbase to drive their holiday spike.

Not there's anything wrong with that, PS3 will have deals, etc. too - but I always feel MS does a better job of judging which bundles/deals to drive maximum return in the countries 360 is popular in and sees a bigger return.

That said with a SW title over 100K in Japan and huge MW3 numbers for PS3 in EMEAA matching those of 360 I'm a little surprised the PS3 saw no real boost in those territories.  The 360 numbers make sense, and given the lack of MW3 bundles for PS3 I didn't expect it to match 360 boost wise anywhere, but it does seem to have seen particularly weak boosts nonetheless.

Still - I can't complain, things are heading to the virtual (and sure to be entertaining) tie for HW for the year with 360 sure to do more over the holidays.  The forums are going to be interesting place for the next few weeks.


I really wouldn't go that far yet. This was after all the launch week of MW3 that pushed the HW sales astronomically high for X360. Next week there is gonna be a drop and after that it gets interesting. Overall nice to see huge HW numbers again. 3DS is probably going to win holiday sales. Two mario games will give it nice boost in west and in Japan it's really going to explode in December.



KillerMan said:
Reasonable said:
pezus said:
D-Joe said:
Shinobi-san said:
Now that i checked the region numbers i see 360 had a massive increase in EMEAA, while ps3 had a very minor increase...

well it dropped last week

and 40~50k gap not really close,and should be 100k+ again later

Considering it was 100k last week I think it's pretty close. As far as I know there wasn't a special edition 360 this week in EMEAA, or was there?

There was.  MW3 bundle in all main European countries I believe.  As I noted in a few of the prediction threads while MS is clearly looking to avoid an official RRP price drop they're going to use bundles and deals to effectively aggresively reduce the price to the consumer or appeal to the CoD fanbase to drive their holiday spike.

Not there's anything wrong with that, PS3 will have deals, etc. too - but I always feel MS does a better job of judging which bundles/deals to drive maximum return in the countries 360 is popular in and sees a bigger return.

That said with a SW title over 100K in Japan and huge MW3 numbers for PS3 in EMEAA matching those of 360 I'm a little surprised the PS3 saw no real boost in those territories.  The 360 numbers make sense, and given the lack of MW3 bundles for PS3 I didn't expect it to match 360 boost wise anywhere, but it does seem to have seen particularly weak boosts nonetheless.

Still - I can't complain, things are heading to the virtual (and sure to be entertaining) tie for HW for the year with 360 sure to do more over the holidays.  The forums are going to be interesting place for the next few weeks.


I really wouldn't go that far yet. This was after all the launch week of MW3 that pushed the HW sales astronomically high for X360. Next week there is gonna be a drop and after that it gets interesting. Overall nice to see huge HW numbers again. 3DS is probably going to win holiday sales. Two mario games will give it nice boost in west and in Japan it's really going to explode in December.


Yeah, I probably stated that to definatively.  I should say I think 360 will outsell PS3 over holidays although I think EMEAA and Japan will keep PS3 close enough that WW will come close to a tie.  I still favour the PS3 to be ahead WW for 2011 but it's going to be close and I can see 360 reaching a draw.

But... all speculation of course as you note and far from a given.

I do wonder how things would be if PS3 had a MW3 bundle in EMEAA.  I'm presuming MS paid to have exclusive WW bundle so it was probably impossible but on these numbers it's likely PS3 would have remained even closer to 360 with such a bundle in EMEAA.



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goforgold said:
sega4life said:
Said it before and again:

Xbox 360 + No Price Cut + Six Years Old + Half a Million Sales + Before Black Friday = AMAZING!

you know I've never understood this "no price cut" stuff

when the ps3 outsold the 360 being  $100-200 more, that's a impressive sales considering the price difference

but the 360 is currently one of, if not the least expensive console on the market and have been so since 2008, and has been at the mass market price point longer than any console this gen, ps3 JUST went below 300 dollars and it still isn't 199, but the 360 has been there since 08 and that's was *counts on fingers* 3 years ago (when the cheapest ps3 was $400)

The thing is though since the ps3 pricecut, in the only place we get average console price data, from the npd, the 360 is selling at a higher average price then the ps3 despite being a year older and having a console priced at supposed "mass market" price, which as it turns out is selling much worse then the other skus considering Npd revealed the average 360 was selling for around 280$ in America in September. Idk if they revealed the average price in october.

I don't think people realize mass market price isn't just some magic number for all consoles. It heavily depends on what people value the product they are buying. I firmly believe that was $300. I don't think the ps3 at $200 will not experience anywhere near the sales explosion it did when the price went down to $300 at the slim launch, at least not in western countries.



KillerMan said:
Reasonable said:
pezus said:
D-Joe said:
Shinobi-san said:
Now that i checked the region numbers i see 360 had a massive increase in EMEAA, while ps3 had a very minor increase...

well it dropped last week

and 40~50k gap not really close,and should be 100k+ again later

Considering it was 100k last week I think it's pretty close. As far as I know there wasn't a special edition 360 this week in EMEAA, or was there?

There was.  MW3 bundle in all main European countries I believe.  As I noted in a few of the prediction threads while MS is clearly looking to avoid an official RRP price drop they're going to use bundles and deals to effectively aggresively reduce the price to the consumer or appeal to the CoD fanbase to drive their holiday spike.

Not there's anything wrong with that, PS3 will have deals, etc. too - but I always feel MS does a better job of judging which bundles/deals to drive maximum return in the countries 360 is popular in and sees a bigger return.

That said with a SW title over 100K in Japan and huge MW3 numbers for PS3 in EMEAA matching those of 360 I'm a little surprised the PS3 saw no real boost in those territories.  The 360 numbers make sense, and given the lack of MW3 bundles for PS3 I didn't expect it to match 360 boost wise anywhere, but it does seem to have seen particularly weak boosts nonetheless.

Still - I can't complain, things are heading to the virtual (and sure to be entertaining) tie for HW for the year with 360 sure to do more over the holidays.  The forums are going to be interesting place for the next few weeks.


I really wouldn't go that far yet. This was after all the launch week of MW3 that pushed the HW sales astronomically high for X360. Next week there is gonna be a drop and after that it gets interesting. Overall nice to see huge HW numbers again. 3DS is probably going to win holiday sales. Two mario games will give it nice boost in west and in Japan it's really going to explode in December.

I think Reasonable is right. 360 will surely do more over the holidays, i think most people on here knows that. The only debatable issue is by how much more. 360 has amazing momentum in the americas at the moment, ps3 has japan and emeaa. The main difference is the buying power of the US market over the holiday periods which is more than that of emeaa, and japan becomes negligible over the holidays, except for the launch week of FF13-2.

Its not also about how well the systems do in their respective strong regions but how badly they do in their week regions. I think ps3 is weaker in the US than the 360 is in emeaa. I mean ps3 only recently took over the 360 in that region in LTD sales. Whereas the 360 has a big lead over ps3 and that lead is growing fast.



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