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David Jaffe is a bit of a loose cannon, which is why he's so interesting. It's rare to see developers willing to engage fans and players so often--and so frankly. Even if I don't always agree with him, I appreciate the fact that Jaffe speaks so candidly.

A Twitter user recently directed a bit of a slam to Jaffe, saying that he thought that the Twisted Metal reboot was going to flop. In true Jaffe fashion, the developer took the time to respond and say that he doesn't care. It's not as though Jaffe is apathetic toward success, but as he explains, there's more to the gaming business than just being a hit factory. Jaffe says that his main goal when working on a game it to make a great game and to work with talented people. As he puts it, it's backward thinking to start a project off with the intention of making it a hit. Instead, developers should focus their efforts and passions into making the best possible game and take it from there.

Here's his entire post.



@WetSlimeyFish I usually would not give your semi mean spirited tweet- proclaiming that Twisted Metal will flop- any attention. But because it allows me the opportunity to b*tch about a pet peeve of mine, I'll shine the spotlight- which you so clearly, desperately crave- upon your obnoxious, flatulent infested ass.

Here's the deal- and I am sure this will be taken out of context by those who prize clicks over quality reporting- but them's- it seems- are the breaks: I don't CARE if Twisted Metal flops.

And before I tell you why, let me make a few things clear:

I feel that Twisted Metal PS3 is the best TM game we've ever made in EVERY respect. Multiplayer, campaign, co-op, split screen, graphics, effects, online, modes, vehicles, strategy, depth, and a whole host of other things we've yet to announce...it's simply the best one we've ever made and a game that- for players who dig action based shooters- will be one of the best games of this year.

I am continually surprised by and always impressed by the team at Eat Sleep Play. They are some of the best in the business and when this game hits, I think you will see why.

I think Twisted Metal is going to do very, very well when it ships this year. Do I think all hard core gamers and hard core gaming journalists will embrace it in the same way they've embraced God of War, Gears of War, Call of Duty:MW2, HALO, Mass Effect 2, and the like? No. Not at all. But then again, Twisted Metal has never gotten a heaping helping of hard core gamer love and while I do expect this title will turn some of the hard core gamer elites into converts, I don't expect it make players trade in their copies of HALO: REACH or HEAVY RAIN or JOURNEY (if you could trade in a digital game...and let's be honest, I'm sure that's on the way...***).

So ok- with all of that out of the way, allow me to say it again: I don't care if TWISTED METAL flops.

Now why would I say that?

BECAUSE we're making the game we want to make. We're making the game that we feel both Twisted Metal fans and action shooter fans in general are going to love.

Sony has graciously - as always- allowed its developers to follow their passions.

Sometimes this works out great for the developers and for Sony (and thus, for the gamers) and sometimes we all fall on our faces.

Making games is as much an art as it is a business and a science and we're willing to stumble from time to time in the pursuit of a vision that we (both Sony, Sony Santa Monica, and Eat Sleep Play) believe in.

Will Twisted Metal stumble or soar? Who knows? Who cares?

Don't get me wrong: do I want hit? Oh hells yes! Very much so. I work super hard every day so that my actions will allow/force/persuade that dream to come true. All of the other members of the Twisted Metal team do the same.

A hit is great for everyone. For Sony. For Sony Santa Monica. And for us: as a developer, as a team, and as individuals. Fewer things are greater than getting a big ass bonus check and knowing you've gotten it 'SIMPLY' BECAUSE the game you've contributed to has made MANY, MANY people happy! I imagine- and I've yet to have this experience but I hope I get to soon- that one of the things that trumps getting a big ass check is being able to hand out big ass checks to all of the people who worked with you in making the game a hit.

But while a hit it desired and coveted and dreamt about and planned for and relentlessly pursued, it should not be the core goal. I think that is a sure fire path to professional failure and personal depression.

I worry that our culture has become so hit driven and so obsessed with sales that we've lost site of one of my favorite parts of capitalism: creating great products that- BECAUSE they are great- naturally, organically BECOME hits and BECOME successes.

If we focus on the product first, there will be times the hits come. Not always. Sometimes you can focus on the product at the expense of the market. It is a balance. But I genuinely feel that the passion and the product needs to drive the work. Not the desire for a hit.

David

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Seriously that was really stupid on David's part. You don't feed the trolls ever. You let them continue going on and on about nothing. 



 

Acevil said:

Seriously that was really stupid on David's part. You don't feed the trolls ever. You let them continue going on and on about nothing. 

lol yeah this

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Acevil said:

Seriously that was really stupid on David's part. You don't feed the trolls ever. You let them continue going on and on about nothing. 


I agree, but it just shows how much he cares about this game. I expect big things from it xD



Jaffe just gained a lot of respect from me. It makes me happy that people like him are making the first TM game that I'll get!



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radiantshadow92 said:
Acevil said:

Seriously that was really stupid on David's part. You don't feed the trolls ever. You let them continue going on and on about nothing. 


I agree, but it just shows how much he cares about this game. I expect big things from it xD


I can understand why he got annoyed, and why he responded, but really as a professional, he should be able to handle these types of critics and ignore them. 

With every game you get critics and people who downplay the game. 



 

Acevil said:

Seriously that was really stupid on David's part. You don't feed the trolls ever. You let them continue going on and on about nothing. 

Yeah and not only that, he also pulled a lie.

I understand his main point (about artistic integrity) but obviously he would feel devastated if Twisted Metal flopped and of course he would love to shine on top of a pedestal if it became a success.



Slimebeast said:
Acevil said:

Seriously that was really stupid on David's part. You don't feed the trolls ever. You let them continue going on and on about nothing. 

Yeah and not only that, he also pulled a lie.

I understand his main point (about artistic integrity) but obviously he would feel devastated if Twisted Metal flopped and of course he would love to shine on top of a pedestal if it became a success.


He didn't lie, he included that in his speech (post). I believe him though, If he cared about the sales he wouldn't go so far as to he doesn't care about the sales (like he did in a video interview with Geof Keely)



Twisted Metal is gonna be awesome...i hope the best for its sales !!!



radiantshadow92 said:
Slimebeast said:
Acevil said:

Seriously that was really stupid on David's part. You don't feed the trolls ever. You let them continue going on and on about nothing. 

Yeah and not only that, he also pulled a lie.

I understand his main point (about artistic integrity) but obviously he would feel devastated if Twisted Metal flopped and of course he would love to shine on top of a pedestal if it became a success.


He didn't lie, he included that in his speech (post).

Don't listen to him, slimebeast is a spy from the xbox side!

lol j/k he has a PS3 now



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