lol rol is a pirate killer.
Rainbird said:
Of course not, but that doesn't mean he can't put attention on the subject. There's no reason to be silent and just let all of this happen without trying to bring attention to it. |
You do realise that by ranting and raving all he's really done is given publicity to the fact that Crysis 2 has been leaked on torrent websites. Maybe he should leave combating piracy to the developers and publishers who can actually have some kind of effect on piracy numbers? His ranting and raving serves no purpose and is potentially even worse for Crysis 2 piracy.
Bringing attention to the subject is actually one of the worst things he can do.
Scoobes said:
You do realise that by ranting and raving all he's really done is given publicity to the fact that Crysis 2 has been leaked on torrent websites. Maybe he should leave combating piracy to the developers and publishers who can actually have some kind of effect on piracy numbers? His ranting and raving serves no purpose and is potentially even worse for Crysis 2 piracy. Bringing attention to the subject is actually one of the worst things he can do. |
knaw i dont think so because someone who pirates usually checks the scenes every so often so they really would find out these games leaked anyway. and regardless of how soon they know about the game on torrents they still were gonna get them. its a thread about piracy but its not like he posted a link lol hes discussing how it has snegative effets which it does.
Hmmmm.
On the one hand, yeah, solid point.
Other hand, kind of an obnoxious, confrontational writer that makes it difficult to read.
But most imporantly: fucking wait until we see how Crysis 2 sells first. Yeah, pirates are shitty. But how many of them would have bought the game anyway? If you're planning on paying for a game, you'll pay for it. If you're planning on pirating it, you'll pirate it. I don't think this leak is any more damaging then any other inevitable closer-to-release date leak.
Piracy/theft/etc has been around forever. Shipping merchants might lose two out of every three ships to pirates, but the 3rd more than makes up for that. Same with games--just factor the "damage" (yet to see anything that shows its as substantial as its often made out) into your projections.
But yeah, pirates are usually immature/immoral/stupid. Oh well, lots of people are.
Crusty VGchartz old timer who sporadically returns & posts. Let's debate nebulous shit and expand our perpectives. Or whatever.
Ail said:
That doesn't make the people that get said build off torrent any less guilty. Which is the point Mummelmann was trying to make... |
Ever borrowed a game from a friend? Ever?
Just as fucking illegal. You're a criminal, whooop.
See, I can do broad reductionism that blurs and shrouds the real issue behind tenuous analogies that aren't even remotely accurate.
Crusty VGchartz old timer who sporadically returns & posts. Let's debate nebulous shit and expand our perpectives. Or whatever.
Mad55 said:
knaw i dont think so because someone who pirates usually checks the scenes every so often so they really would find out these games leaked anyway. and regardless of how soon they know about the game on torrents they still were gonna get them. its a thread about piracy but its not like he posted a link lol hes discussing how it has snegative effets which it does. |
I think you'd be suprised. In the past I'll admit I've downloaded pirated games, but not very often, and things like this that reveal games are now available can result in pirating by more "casual" pirates. Not all pirates are that involved in the scene. That's simply a sterotype.
Either way, I don't see the point in his rant. It's poorly written, full of ignorant opinions and essentially pointless as it's the developers and publishers that combat piracy.
darkknightkryta said:
A little side note on Tengen, they broke that lockout chip by going to the patent office and got Nintendo's patent on it to see how it works and then they reverse engineered it from that. So they cheated to hack it. Wonder if they didn't get those docs from the patent office if they would have broken the security. |
Exactly, they tried to hack it, but time was running short so they went to the patent office and commited a major felony, when they released their own chip they sued Nintendo for monopoly, Nintendo found out about the patents and countersued them, guess who won that battle...
But they didn't come up with the voltage spike, that was the 1st method, then i remember the "dongle games", it was an official game inserted into the unnoficial one, then the Unidaptor, and along with that, Nintendo doing a lot of hardware revisions (sound familiar???)
Yeah all thanks to the pirates that game boxes are slowly evaporating from our shelves :-/
Arseholes..
Scoobes said:
You do realise that by ranting and raving all he's really done is given publicity to the fact that Crysis 2 has been leaked on torrent websites. Maybe he should leave combating piracy to the developers and publishers who can actually have some kind of effect on piracy numbers? His ranting and raving serves no purpose and is potentially even worse for Crysis 2 piracy. Bringing attention to the subject is actually one of the worst things he can do. |
I agree that bringing attention to Crysis 2 and the leaked version is bad for that game specifically. But I still agree on his points, and I think bringing those forward is important. I used to pirate games a lot, but I didn't really think about what I was doing and how wrong it was until I found out how much damage it can cause when developers don't get paid what they rightfully deserve.
That's what he's ranting and raving about. Making people aware and trying to make them realize and admit what they are actually doing. I don't look at it as black and white as he does, but overall I still agree with his points.