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Salnax on 07 August 2010

The Wii is third place in hardware, but still sells about 400,000 more units of software than the PS3 and about 575,000 more than the 360. Even if you factor in Wii Sports, it's still hundreds of thousands ahead of its competitors.

The Wii: Even when it loses it wins.



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puffy on 07 August 2010

I still think Nintendo will release their next home console in late 2012, I've always thought that and that's the way it's headed.



 

welshbloke on 07 August 2010
Vertigo-X said:


In my opinion, to the prospective buyer, the 360 will seem too cluttered and unfocused. Some games won't work without a certain peripheral. The prospective buyer will probably be confused. Same goes for PS Move.

 

I doubt they will be confused with Kinect at any rate. All the Kinect titles are clearly marked Kinect and when the titles that will support both appear I am sure they will be clearly marked with Kinect Enhanced logo or some such thing.

The Wii decline is based on the fact it has nothing more to give. It is actually following a standard console trend, whereas the HD Twins are still evolving and why both will have much longer lifespans on the market. What will be interesting now that the twins are offering so much is what any prospective Wii2 model could offer outside of its first party titles.



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Metallicube on 07 August 2010
puffy said:

I still think Nintendo will release their next home console in late 2012, I've always thought that and that's the way it's headed.

Yeah 2012 is what I was thinking for the next console as well. Main reason being, PS2's life was six years and Wii is tracking on a similar path to its sales, so six years for the Wii would make sense. I still think releasing another console next year would be a bit premature, since motion plus games are just starting to be released and Vitality Sensor hasn't even come out yet.

Also, it would follow the DS Wii pattern: 2004-2006 for DS and Wii respectively. 2010 (in Japan) - 2012 for 3DS and N6.



Buzzi on 07 August 2010
Metallicube said:
puffy said:

I still think Nintendo will release their next home console in late 2012, I've always thought that and that's the way it's headed.

Yeah 2012 is what I was thinking for the next console as well. Main reason being, PS2's life was six years and Wii is tracking on a similar path to its sales, so six years for the Wii would make sense. I still think releasing another console next year would be a bit premature, since motion plus games are just starting to be released and Vitality Sensor hasn't even come out yet.

Also, it would follow the DS Wii pattern: 2004-2006 for DS and Wii respectively. 2010 (in Japan) - 2012 for 3DS and N6.

With VGC 3.0 there's not the "hardware from launch" feature right? I would like to see if really the PS2 in its 4th year was selling just like the Wii now...in that case Wii's sales would make more sense, even if a bigger start should mean big sales for its whole life...



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Barozi on 07 August 2010
Salnax said:

The Wii is third place in hardware, but still sells about 400,000 more units of software than the PS3 and about 575,000 more than the 360. Even if you factor in Wii Sports, it's still hundreds of thousands ahead of its competitors.

The Wii: Even when it loses it wins.


Isn't it far more impressive that a console that only has half the Wii's userbase sells almost as much software as the Wii ?



Antabus on 07 August 2010
Metallicube said:
darthdevidem01 said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:

I wonder if Wii could actually wind up in third this holiday. With Microsoft's Kinect, Reach and continued strong sales of the slim model and Sony's Move and GT5, Nintendo must be praying Donkey Kong is a hardware mover cause it's their only hope right now.

I'm really wondering why people think DK is going to be a hardware mover.

Donkey Kong as far as I remember mostly catered to existing Nintendo fans/Mario fans. And NSMB Wii must have got loads of Mario fans on Wii.

DKCR will surely move some systems, but I don't think its gonna be a massive system seller like NSMB Wii.

So funny how history repeats, especially when that history repeating is less than a year old...

As I recall, almost EVERYONE here said the same about NSMB Wii, that it would only sell to existing Wii owners. When I said it would move massive hardware, noone believed me.

Donkey Kong Country Returns is a similar type of game NSMB Wii is; a mass market sidescroller that appeals to many. Also similar to Mario, DKC is a series that has been untouched for a over a decade, which probably has created a lot of pent up hype. But at the same time, it's still a different game, that will probably pick up some gamers that NSMB Wii did not. Expect this game to be huge, then the crow eating will begin again, just like with NSMB Wii..

While it won't be AS big as NSMB Wii, Epic Mickey, Wii Party, Goldeneye, and Kirby could pick up that extra slack. Wii won't sell 4.3 million like last December, but I think a 3.5 - 4 million is very possible.

Yeah, when was the game released? Oh no, maybe it was not the game itself but the usual holidayboost! That boost is not from those individual games but people buying wii for christmas presents. Usually parents buying consoles for their kids.



Skeeuk on 07 August 2010

again 360 SW is flat, there must be bucket loads of upgraders



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Buzzi on 07 August 2010
Antabus said:
Metallicube said:
darthdevidem01 said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:

I wonder if Wii could actually wind up in third this holiday. With Microsoft's Kinect, Reach and continued strong sales of the slim model and Sony's Move and GT5, Nintendo must be praying Donkey Kong is a hardware mover cause it's their only hope right now.

I'm really wondering why people think DK is going to be a hardware mover.

Donkey Kong as far as I remember mostly catered to existing Nintendo fans/Mario fans. And NSMB Wii must have got loads of Mario fans on Wii.

DKCR will surely move some systems, but I don't think its gonna be a massive system seller like NSMB Wii.

So funny how history repeats, especially when that history repeating is less than a year old...

As I recall, almost EVERYONE here said the same about NSMB Wii, that it would only sell to existing Wii owners. When I said it would move massive hardware, noone believed me.

Donkey Kong Country Returns is a similar type of game NSMB Wii is; a mass market sidescroller that appeals to many. Also similar to Mario, DKC is a series that has been untouched for a over a decade, which probably has created a lot of pent up hype. But at the same time, it's still a different game, that will probably pick up some gamers that NSMB Wii did not. Expect this game to be huge, then the crow eating will begin again, just like with NSMB Wii..

While it won't be AS big as NSMB Wii, Epic Mickey, Wii Party, Goldeneye, and Kirby could pick up that extra slack. Wii won't sell 4.3 million like last December, but I think a 3.5 - 4 million is very possible.

Yeah, when was the game released? Oh no, maybe it was not the game itself but the usual holidayboost! That boost is not from those individual games but people buying wii for christmas presents. Usually parents buying consoles for their kids.


Do you really think the fastest selling videogame ever didn't move hardware? Even if Wii had tons of Mario games before, NSMBW moved a lot of hardware, it was mostly because of it that Wii had record holidays in the US, the price cut itself did something but would have never pushed the Wii to that. And sales in January show it, NSMBW was the game most people bought with the Wii, while now the games which are keeping the Wii at (relatively) high levels are Wii Sports Resort and Wii Fit Plus, and maybe some sales from Super Mario Galaxy 2 too.



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Antabus on 07 August 2010
Buzzi said:
Antabus said:
Metallicube said:
darthdevidem01 said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:

I wonder if Wii could actually wind up in third this holiday. With Microsoft's Kinect, Reach and continued strong sales of the slim model and Sony's Move and GT5, Nintendo must be praying Donkey Kong is a hardware mover cause it's their only hope right now.

I'm really wondering why people think DK is going to be a hardware mover.

Donkey Kong as far as I remember mostly catered to existing Nintendo fans/Mario fans. And NSMB Wii must have got loads of Mario fans on Wii.

DKCR will surely move some systems, but I don't think its gonna be a massive system seller like NSMB Wii.

So funny how history repeats, especially when that history repeating is less than a year old...

As I recall, almost EVERYONE here said the same about NSMB Wii, that it would only sell to existing Wii owners. When I said it would move massive hardware, noone believed me.

Donkey Kong Country Returns is a similar type of game NSMB Wii is; a mass market sidescroller that appeals to many. Also similar to Mario, DKC is a series that has been untouched for a over a decade, which probably has created a lot of pent up hype. But at the same time, it's still a different game, that will probably pick up some gamers that NSMB Wii did not. Expect this game to be huge, then the crow eating will begin again, just like with NSMB Wii..

While it won't be AS big as NSMB Wii, Epic Mickey, Wii Party, Goldeneye, and Kirby could pick up that extra slack. Wii won't sell 4.3 million like last December, but I think a 3.5 - 4 million is very possible.

Yeah, when was the game released? Oh no, maybe it was not the game itself but the usual holidayboost! That boost is not from those individual games but people buying wii for christmas presents. Usually parents buying consoles for their kids.


Do you really think the fastest selling videogame ever didn't move hardware? Even if Wii had tons of Mario games before, NSMBW moved a lot of hardware, it was mostly because of it that Wii had record holidays in the US, the price cut itself did something but would have never pushed the Wii to that. And sales in January show it, NSMBW was the game most people bought with the Wii, while now the games which are keeping the Wii at (relatively) high levels are Wii Sports Resort and Wii Fit Plus, and maybe some sales from Super Mario Galaxy 2 too.

Of course it moved some HW but it was not as big system mover as some people make it to be. Pricecut holiday season were bigger reasons for those sales.