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LordTheNightKnight on 28 March 2010
-PaNdOrA- said:
GlingGling said:

My summation for anyone who cares (I read the whole topic and loved it):

 

The two heavy hitters were Carl2291 and LordTheNightKnight. 

Viper1 aptly gave the thread ender on page 16:

Is it low for the brand? Yes.

Is it low for the game? No.

Carl2291 gladly accepted victory on the first question. The problem was that he could not fully accept the validity of the second and many other members were angered by his tunnel vision.

LordTheNightKnight did everything in his power to call Carl2291 out his attempts to provide non-relavent, incorrect, and subjective information that shifted focus away from the second question. Ultimately nothing LordTheNightKnight did mattered. Carl2291 left the argument several times only to return to continue to invalidate promising attempts at congratulating a game with 1mil sales.

Honorable mention goes to Kasz216 for cross referencing newer more accurate VGChartz sales figures with publisher sales figures to raise legitimate questions about possible inaccuracy in VGChartz pre-tracking sales figures.

*I have provided none of my own argument and for the record I don't own any of the current generation consoles or handhelds.

Thanks :p

Now I don't have to read all these "epic" comments

Those aren't epic comments.

THIS IS AN EPIC COMMENT!!!

GAZE IN WONDER AS YOU BEHOLD THE UNMATCHED AWESOMENESS OF THIS COMMENT!!!

 



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

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Cheebee on 28 March 2010

Gosh, this thread's still alive?



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LordTheNightKnight on 28 March 2010
Cheebee said:
Gosh, this thread's still alive?

This was a triumph.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

phenom08 on 28 March 2010
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:

No, I'm just showing to everybody how your standards differ for Nintendo vs. Sony, maybe thats why you dislike me so much because I'm showing how inconsistent and biased you really are...

Anyway, have fun trying to deny that.

Nah, i dislike you because you constantly troll anything Sony. You are well known for it, actually... And have been banned a number of times for it too if i remember correctly 

And didn't i just say that GT PSP is a flop in numbers for the series? Yes... Yes i did.

Have i also said that the GTA:CW on PSP is a flop... Yes. Wow. I must really hate the PSP :/

Now, get back on topic please. We have established i despise the PSP... Now let's move on!

Well going by carl's logic this confirms the ps3 and psp are both flops since they most likely aren't going to sell as much as the ps1 and ps2

note: i don't really feel like either one are flops just trying to point you to the fact that just because gta:cw hasn't sold as much as previous gtas doesn't make it a flop it as sold pretty well and so has the ps3 and psp



Carl on 28 March 2010
phenom08 said:

Well going by carl's logic this confirms the ps3 and psp are both flops since they most likely aren't going to sell as much as the ps1 and ps2

note: i don't really feel like either one are flops just trying to point you to the fact that just because gta:cw hasn't sold as much as previous gtas doesn't make it a flop it as sold pretty well and so has the ps3 and psp

Not necessarily. PS1 and PS2 sold 100/140M each. PSP and PS3 are as of now, 57/33M each.

I would give the PSP a 75M tops numbers. Which isn't that far away from PS1, and would also be the best selling non-Nintendo handheld. That isn't a flop.

PS3 - Who knows where it will end up? It has constantly increased YoY, and still has yet to have its biggest exclusive. 70M is now the LOWEST we could expect for PS3 IMO, and it could reach 80-90M in it's lifetime, depending on how long the generation lasts and how long all 3 consoles are on the market. I wouldn't call that a flop sales-wise. Profit-wise... More than likely.

And if you look closely, 7/10 of PSone sales or 1/2 of PS2 sales... Is much better than 1/18 (or 1/20 if you want to add Xbox sales) of GTA:SA sales or 1/14 of GTA4 sales.



                            

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Arius Dion on 28 March 2010

^LoL. I think I need a Dramamine.



Bet between Slimbeast and Arius Dion about Wii sales 2009:


If the Wii sells less than 20 million in 2009 (as defined by VGC sales between week ending 3d Jan 2009 to week ending 4th Jan 2010) Slimebeast wins and get to control Arius Dion's sig for 1 month.

If the Wii sells more than 20 million in 2009 (as defined above) Arius Dion wins and gets to control Slimebeast's sig for 1 month.

FaRmLaNd on 28 March 2010

The reality is GTA was always more popular when it was in 3d. Whilst the series always did well in 2d (just like chintown wars has sold like 1.4 million copies) its the 3d releases that made it the massive franchise it is today.

It was never going to get a nsmb like return to 2d because it simply never was as big in 2d whereas mario was as big if not bigger when it was in 2d.



LordTheNightKnight on 28 March 2010

BTW, claiming the PSP version selling less because it's a port is wrong because it's not a port. It's an enhanced remake. They updated the graphics and tweaked the gameplay. If that's enough for Super Mario All-Stars, that's enough for this game.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

phenom08 on 28 March 2010
Carl2291 said:
phenom08 said:

Well going by carl's logic this confirms the ps3 and psp are both flops since they most likely aren't going to sell as much as the ps1 and ps2

note: i don't really feel like either one are flops just trying to point you to the fact that just because gta:cw hasn't sold as much as previous gtas doesn't make it a flop it as sold pretty well and so has the ps3 and psp

Not necessarily. PS1 and PS2 sold 100/140M each. PSP and PS3 are as of now, 57/33M each.

I would give the PSP a 75M tops numbers. Which isn't that far away from PS1, and would also be the best selling non-Nintendo handheld. That isn't a flop.

PS3 - Who knows where it will end up? It has constantly increased YoY, and still has yet to have its biggest exclusive. 70M is now the LOWEST we could expect for PS3 IMO, and it could reach 80-90M in it's lifetime, depending on how long the generation lasts and how long all 3 consoles are on the market. I wouldn't call that a flop sales-wise. Profit-wise... More than likely.

And if you look closely, 7/10 of PSone sales or 1/2 of PS2 sales... Is much better than 1/18 (or 1/20 if you want to add Xbox sales) of GTA:SA sales or 1/14 of GTA4 sales.

well if you compare the first gtas to gta:cw, since they were alot closer to each other then the lastest gtas, then the ratios would be alot closer and like I said if it falls short it falls short psp falling 25 million below isn't close to me so no on that and ps3 selling 80 million is my bet so 20 million units behind again not very close in my opinion so flops confirmed

edit: That's a good point atma brung up, Carl do you consider PSPGo a flop?



atma998 on 28 March 2010
phenom08 said:
Carl2291 said:
phenom08 said:

Well going by carl's logic this confirms the ps3 and psp are both flops since they most likely aren't going to sell as much as the ps1 and ps2

note: i don't really feel like either one are flops just trying to point you to the fact that just because gta:cw hasn't sold as much as previous gtas doesn't make it a flop it as sold pretty well and so has the ps3 and psp

Not necessarily. PS1 and PS2 sold 100/140M each. PSP and PS3 are as of now, 57/33M each.

I would give the PSP a 75M tops numbers. Which isn't that far away from PS1, and would also be the best selling non-Nintendo handheld. That isn't a flop.

PS3 - Who knows where it will end up? It has constantly increased YoY, and still has yet to have its biggest exclusive. 70M is now the LOWEST we could expect for PS3 IMO, and it could reach 80-90M in it's lifetime, depending on how long the generation lasts and how long all 3 consoles are on the market. I wouldn't call that a flop sales-wise. Profit-wise... More than likely.

And if you look closely, 7/10 of PSone sales or 1/2 of PS2 sales... Is much better than 1/18 (or 1/20 if you want to add Xbox sales) of GTA:SA sales or 1/14 of GTA4 sales.

well if you compare the first gtas to gta:cw, since they were alot closer to each other then the lastest gtas, then the ratios would be alot closer and like I said if it falls short it falls short psp falling 25 million below isn't close to me so no on that and ps3 selling 80 million is my bet so 20 million units behind again not very close in my opinion so flops confirmed

lol

He didnt called the PSP go! a flop so I don't think he will call the PS3 a flop either. Anyway those are Sony consoles so don't expect him to say anything bad about it.