Nintendo didn't stop making regular coke either...

The first years really hurted the image of the Wii for the core audience. There are tons of great core games for Wii, and many people still don't know or don't want to know.

Whatever happens with PS Move or Natal, Nintendo should focus to create great core games that use Motion Controls in a unique way. Probably this E3.

sony is currently not in the position to release a revolutionary, brand new control scheme. instead the they do the exact right thing... their new controller is basically 100% compatible to the wii mote and the camera offers (limited?) compatibility to natal. 3rd parties can now produce wii+ps3 wand games and 360+ps3 camera games.
sounds promising, in my opinion.

what do you think would have happened if the original xbox controller would not have been compatible to the playstation 2 one?

Totally disagree...

Sony is not innovating their console for their FANS...
Sony doesn't care about the fans, they just want to broaden their userbase.

I guess the pro's about the ps3 Move is that the Ps3 only does 'everything'. Whether you or i like what they are doing, they're just catering to a larger audience... that's all.

(I can see daddy say: i want a ps3 to use it as Blu-ray and media-center while the kids can play happy games...)

Motion technology will become a standard in gaming regardless so it's best that Sony and M$ get on the band wagon now. Sony is not some low rent company making cheap imitations in a factory in China. They are the real deal; always have been. There is a fine line between imitation and innovation and Sony has been on the innovation side. Largely agreed by now that the PS3 hardware design was a bold move that cost Sony alot but seems to be gaining them ground now.

First, the fact that Sony has copied that design should validate the direction that motion gaming is going. It's like I learned while studying martial arts. Several systems have the same move, which is validation of the effectiveness of the technique. Same goes with this. Sony making a controller similar to Wii mote is validation of the effectiveness of this type of motion control.

What will be the more effective iteration is going to depend on what developers do with the tech not the tech itself. As I said, and this leads me to my second point, motion technology will become a standard and therefore its going to become a matter of preference as to which controller one prefers. I suspect next generation all systems will have motion controls by default and its going to be like what M$ did with online last generation. Could you imagine a system this gen without an online component, access to dowloadable content, firmware updates, and the many other things that online brought to consoles? That console simply would not survive. Next generation, motion technology will be that standard that people can't live without.

The truth is that Sony seems to have sound implementation here, so really it will become a matter of software to support it which has always been the deciding factor...

From the press releases on this, Move is targeted towards new customers (as in non-customers), not the existing fanbase.

What I find silly is that it seems that Sony thinks that Wii owners will want to shell out another 500+ dollars for a new system + controllers. Playing the Wii is a social experience, and most people that play Wii (minus the Wii Fit-ers) do so in groups. So that requires an investment into a way new set of controllers to play with friends and family. Part of the appeal of the Wii is its cheap price.

I really don't think Wii owners are going to shell out 100s of dollars for what is looking like only a graphics upgrade. Sales numbers of the Wii and its games have already shown that most people don't care about graphics. If Sony has a device that does essentially the same thing (even if the way its done is different, and the tech is better), and releases the same games, what will entice Wii owners to pick it up?

To sum up, Sony will not lose fans for this, but I do not believe Sony will gain the millions of fans they want/expect. Maybe some people who have no system and were interested in Blu-ray (points to weaveworld's last comment), but I doubt many Wii owners care to upgrade and buy a whole new set of controllers and game.

In the end, it's about the software. The Wii was successful in large part due to great software from Nintendo. If Sony can do the same, and not just mimic successful Wii software, then maybe they can pull in enough new customers to meet their expectations.

I think that the real damage to both Microsoft and Sony would be felt in the next generation if these add-ons are not particularly successful or well received.

First off there is the third party factor, and while these Playstation Move and Project Natal games are unlikely to be as expensive as most PS3 or XBox 360 games it is likely that they’re significantly more expensive than their Wii counterparts; and large losses from products supporting failed add-ons after betting against the Nintendo DS and Wii will likely be the last mistakes many executives at third party publishers make for these companies.

Secondly, I would say there is a risk from core gamers feeling abandoned especially if Sony and Microsoft continue efforts to be more inclusive in their next generation. After last E3 core fans of Sony and Microsoft spent a lot of time hyping that their console’s new input devices would be used heavily in core games and their systems would have the hardcore gaming experience that Wii owners had been asking for since it launched. If these add-ons launch and the smaller core titles (that I said should have been made for the Wii) are replaced with the kind of motion-controlled shovelware that the Wii has been bashed for it will aggravate a lot of these gamers; and if these systems are unsuccessful and Sony and Microsoft continue to push heavily in this direction the feeling of abandonment will only get worse.

Finally, there is what I would call the Zune factor. If the expanded audience doesn’t see value in these products it will become dramatically harder to catch their notice in the next generation (regardless of what you do).

as far as i know sony is launching a new flavor but is not discarding the original so the current fans are secured and new ones to come... i would only abandon sony console gaming if motion control become the standard controller... in the meantime, me and others will keep supporting sony! don't wory

sony will have a hard time to convince the casual audience to buy their machine cuz there have to do more than that. At the end of the day, it all boils down to unique games and IP unlike nintendo who has been this casual bussiness for +3 years, are already use to satisfying the two market(casual and hardcore)

sony has a very long way to go even when they launch the playstation move but i believe it will take at least a year before they can catch on to the new audience

what a stupid topic , why would anyone think that sony would alienate their hardcore audience.

sony employs more first party devs than microsoft and nintendo combined if anything were going to see lots of hardcore games making use of the gamepad and motion controls and in my eyes i think sony will keep pumping out wicked titles one after another.

having the option of motion controls just makes the system that much more appealing, these are the first titles and yes they are not groundbreaking but in due time we will see some amazing stuff down the line, sony has the ability to take nintendo head on right now with better hardcore games and better motion controls than both nintendo and natal.

please tell me how anyone could play a complicated shooter like bioshock or battlefield on natal, the only console i see fit for hardcore motion controls is ps3.

people will try and find reasons to hate but they have no idea what software is in store for the future , sony already announced a hardcore rts title using the move or gamepad the options are there and the gamers are the ones who win in the end, people would be silly not to invest in the move controls on a stellar console with unmatched developer support