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Xen on 31 January 2010

No shit, Sherlock.



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deathcape on 31 January 2010
Smashchu2 said:
c0rd said:

The problem with the FF1-3 and FF4+ compared with 2D vs 3D Mario is, 2D was Mario at his height. On the other hand, FF's popularity just kept rising after FF4.

I don't think the audience for FF1-3 is as big as the latter. Now, I don't necessarily think current Final Fantasies are as doing as well as they could be, but I think FF4-8 (and 10) is closer to what most people would prefer.

While the battle system of FFX was my favorite, it probably had too much focus on story (cutscenes). Some balance between this and all the older FF's could definitely make a great game that many can appreciate.

Eh, who knows what The Last Story could turn out like? Just wait for details!

This is semi related, but FF7 was the biggest game, and the hight of the series was defined by graphics and cinamatics. 3D graphics made a temporary spark in the market and this is what has allowed 7 8 and 10 to be the top games. 13 is under preforming meaning the spark is wearing off. It will be hard to put the series on top, but Square will have to go back to the basics and/or impliment the Blue Ocean Strategy in order to get to 7 8 and 10's point.

I wish people would keep all this in mind when telling me the 3D games sold better, though 3D graphics were part of it

I guess going back to the basics of FFIV or creating a better fucntioning system than ATB would do the trick.

 

maybe not as far as going back to the basic of basics wich was done in FFCC series as well as KH1 and KH:CoM

KH2 was too much X mashing to require much strategy



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ElRhodeo on 13 February 2010

Just curious if someone else thinks the same...
Please, I'm not ranting to piss anybody off, just sharing my thoughts on the FF/LS connection. To each their own.

I've hardly ever played any RPG's, Mystic Quest (SNES), Chrono Trigger (DS) and the Mario RPG's - that's all. I'm a huge Zelda fan though, and currently I'm in the mood for some bigger, story driven game, just like most Wii gamers. So when Last Story was announced, I was interested, and headed over to Gametrailers to get a short impression of the Final Fantasy series as it has evolved.

Turns out I seem to absolutely hate Final Fantasy XIII and Versus. It looks like 100% trash culture to me. Ridiculously overblown fantasy action, like an androgynous 15 year old poser stopping an army with his blade. The characters, jesus! They all look like a teeny boy group from Hongkong, pretending to be, dunno, statesmen? It's awful.
Then the inflationary use of all things potentially impressive - flying cities and magic and flashing lights everywhere. It's just tiring. One of the things I like about Zelda is that it spares things like these for special occasions, with the games usually starting out in fairly normal settings.

Talking about gameplay, FF totally looks like what I already hated when the first Playstation was released with its CD drive: Flashy prerendered cutscenes over actual play time. 


Sooo, after all that ranting, here's my point: Does anybody else hope for "The Last Story" to be fundamentally DIFFERENT from today's Final Fantasy? I sure do.

 



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Waiting for: Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Wii), The Last Story (Wii), Golden Sun (DS), Portal 2 (Wii? or OSX), Metroid: Other M (Wii), 
... and of course Zelda (Wii) 
FaRmLaNd on 13 February 2010

alliteration



Stefan.De.Machtige on 13 February 2010
ElRhodeo said:

Just curious if someone else thinks the same...
Please, I'm not ranting to piss anybody off, just sharing my thoughts on the FF/LS connection. To each their own.

I've hardly ever played any RPG's, Mystic Quest (SNES), Chrono Trigger (DS) and the Mario RPG's - that's all. I'm a huge Zelda fan though, and currently I'm in the mood for some bigger, story driven game, just like most Wii gamers. So when Last Story was announced, I was interested, and headed over to Gametrailers to get a short impression of the Final Fantasy series as it has evolved.

Turns out I seem to absolutely hate Final Fantasy XIII and Versus. It looks like 100% trash culture to me. Ridiculously overblown fantasy action, like an androgynous 15 year old poser stopping an army with his blade. The characters, jesus! They all look like a teeny boy group from Hongkong, pretending to be, dunno, statesmen? It's awful.
Then the inflationary use of all things potentially impressive - flying cities and magic and flashing lights everywhere. It's just tiring. One of the things I like about Zelda is that it spares things like these for special occasions, with the games usually starting out in fairly normal settings.

Talking about gameplay, FF totally looks like what I already hated when the first Playstation was released with its CD drive: Flashy prerendered cutscenes over actual play time. 


Sooo, after all that ranting, here's my point: Does anybody else hope for "The Last Story" to be fundamentally DIFFERENT from today's Final Fantasy? I sure do.

 

NIntendo makes gameplay-games, and they own the IP. So yeah, i think so.



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Bamboleo on 13 February 2010

Í just don't want it to be turn based.

I also don't want it be based on J-pop culture like the last FF's.

Medieval themed is the way to go.



mai on 13 February 2010
ElRhodeo said:

Just curious if someone else thinks the same...
Please, I'm not ranting to piss anybody off, just sharing my thoughts on the FF/LS connection. To each their own.

...


Sooo, after all that ranting, here's my point: Does anybody else hope for "The Last Story" to be fundamentally DIFFERENT from today's Final Fantasy? I sure do.

A lot of people here think the same, just don't usually say it out loud since it brings nothing but flamewars.

Even with all my tolerance and indulgence to FF franchise I can't stand it anymore, I sure do hope so.



GuyDuke on 13 February 2010

I saw how the logo was designed, then I knew it would be something akin.



SnesTea on 14 February 2010
Soriku said:
Huh...since when did making your own choices guarantee it sales, and when did games that don't allow you to have choices become HD games? What about those type of games before this gen? It's going to be a Nintendo publishes game, there will be plenty of gameplay.

So The Last Story is for Wii?



jack100 on 14 February 2010
Snesboy said:
Soriku said:
Huh...since when did making your own choices guarantee it sales, and when did games that don't allow you to have choices become HD games? What about those type of games before this gen? It's going to be a Nintendo publishes game, there will be plenty of gameplay.

So The Last Story is for Wii?


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