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Forums - Sales Discussion - Valkyria Chronicles OUTSELLS Lost Odyssey

jarrod on 21 January 2010
jacks81x said:
jarrod said:
postofficebuddy said:
jarrod said:
ps3_jrpg_gamer said:
first of all
NPD is from jan 2009 A YEAR OLD
130,000 in jan 2009 VC sales picked up since april nothing wrong

No, the Jan 2009 leak had VC at 74k.   The 130k is from November (not last NPD, sorry).


According to VGC almost half of the games current American sales came in the last 7 weeks. November data obviously doesn't isn't of much use here. Just wait for Sega to give their quarterly report.

The game's out of stock and pretty much every electronics and toy retailer (Wal-mart, Best Buy, TRU, etc), and has been for months.  Gamestop's the only major nationwide who seems to even carry it, and then even it varies store to store and is unavailable online.  

What happens if it's not mentioned in the quarterly report?  Just like it's never been highlighted in any of Sega's IR reports after the Q1 2008 interim results (where Sega said domestic sales were "steady")?

Looks pretty available to me...

Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Valkyria-Chronicles-Playstation-3/dp/B0016C3260/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1264107915&sr=8-1

Toys r Us

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3632085

Barnes & Noble

http://videogames.barnesandnoble.com/Video-game/Valkyria-Chronicles/e/10086690200/?itm=1&USRI=valkyria

Gamestop

http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=4058

Sears:

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_05896403000P?vName=Entertainment&cName=VideoGames&sName=PlayStation%203%20Games&sid=IDAx20080403x000001&aff=Y&jftid=4:53010af5-7a04-4861-93c1-0b9e85478072

Buy.com

http://www.buy.com/prod/valkyria-chronicles/q/loc/108/207923326.html

I was talking B&M.  NPD actually gets data directly from all those companies too now iirc (they made a deal with Amazon in... August was it?).  It'd be one thing if VGC was attributing the huge difference to say Wal-mart, but they're not stocking it online and the in-store locator seems spotty too (no copies within 100 miles of NYC, LA or Chicago?).  So where would the extra sales be coming from?



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gekkokamen on 21 January 2010

wow. lost odyssey was a major flop...That will show those JRPG developers to stay away from exclusivity on an American console dominated by shooters....



d21lewis on 21 January 2010
gekkokamen said:
wow. lost odyssey was a major flop...That will show those JRPG developers to stay away from exclusivity on an American console dominated by shooters....

By your definition, a lot of successful games flopped.



superbeast1370 on 21 January 2010

Take note, Square Enix.



Barozi on 21 January 2010
Carl2291 said:

Yep, finally happened...

http://www.vgchartz.com/swlaunch.php?reg1=All&game1=Valkyria+Chronicles+-+PS3%5B18897%5D&reg2=All&game2=Lost+Odyssey+-+360%5B7637%5D&reg3=All&game3=&weeks=113

As we can see, Valkyria Chronicles has finally jumped over Lost Odyssey sales-wise. Pretty good achievement considering a number of things VC has going against it.

Lower worldwide userbase
SRPG
Been on the market for a shorter period of time.

Numbers come from this site. Don't like the sites numbers? Then don't comment...

well actually VGC had the numbers for Lost Odyssey well over 820k before ioi changed the numbers to match it with NPD.

So basically you compare NPD numbers for LO with VGC numbers for VC.

So arcording to the numbers of THIS site. Valkyria Chronicles is well behind LO.



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Munkeh111 on 21 January 2010
jarrod said:
Munkeh111 said:
Surprising. I wish Mistwalker could port LO to PS3 so more people would play it, it is such a good game, and the success of a turn based jRPG might get more developers to stick with turn based games!

Microsoft co-owns the IP, it'll never happen.  The game in this thread that could theoretically be ported would be VC.

We could maybe see a LO spinoff for DS though...

That's why I said I wish.... To be honest, they are great games, and Mistwalker certainly need to make another game



jarrod on 21 January 2010
Barozi said:
Carl2291 said:

Yep, finally happened...

http://www.vgchartz.com/swlaunch.php?reg1=All&game1=Valkyria+Chronicles+-+PS3%5B18897%5D&reg2=All&game2=Lost+Odyssey+-+360%5B7637%5D&reg3=All&game3=&weeks=113

As we can see, Valkyria Chronicles has finally jumped over Lost Odyssey sales-wise. Pretty good achievement considering a number of things VC has going against it.

Lower worldwide userbase
SRPG
Been on the market for a shorter period of time.

Numbers come from this site. Don't like the sites numbers? Then don't comment...

well actually VGC had the numbers for Lost Odyssey well over 820k before ioi changed the numbers to match it with NPD.

So basically you compare NPD numbers for LO with VGC numbers for VC.

So arcording to the numbers of THIS site. Valkyria Chronicles is well behind LO.

Out of curiosity, what were the pre-adjustment VGC numbers?



jarrod on 21 January 2010
Munkeh111 said:
jarrod said:
Munkeh111 said:
Surprising. I wish Mistwalker could port LO to PS3 so more people would play it, it is such a good game, and the success of a turn based jRPG might get more developers to stick with turn based games!

Microsoft co-owns the IP, it'll never happen.  The game in this thread that could theoretically be ported would be VC.

We could maybe see a LO spinoff for DS though...

That's why I said I wish.... To be honest, they are great games, and Mistwalker certainly need to make another game

Yeah true.  I think in a perfect world, all these games would've been multiplatform (Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, White Knight Chronicles, Valkyria Profile, etc).  I bet Mistwalker could've found a different backer if they really wanted to.



Cactus on 21 January 2010
Munkeh111 said:
jarrod said:
Munkeh111 said:
Surprising. I wish Mistwalker could port LO to PS3 so more people would play it, it is such a good game, and the success of a turn based jRPG might get more developers to stick with turn based games!

Microsoft co-owns the IP, it'll never happen.  The game in this thread that could theoretically be ported would be VC.

We could maybe see a LO spinoff for DS though...

That's why I said I wish.... To be honest, they are great games, and Mistwalker certainly need to make another game

Let's hope that the rumors of Microsoft getting ready to announce a new, large-scale RPG and Mistwalker prepping an announcement are more than just a coincidence...



Munkeh111 on 21 January 2010
jarrod said:
Munkeh111 said:
jarrod said:
Munkeh111 said:
Surprising. I wish Mistwalker could port LO to PS3 so more people would play it, it is such a good game, and the success of a turn based jRPG might get more developers to stick with turn based games!

Microsoft co-owns the IP, it'll never happen.  The game in this thread that could theoretically be ported would be VC.

We could maybe see a LO spinoff for DS though...

That's why I said I wish.... To be honest, they are great games, and Mistwalker certainly need to make another game

Yeah true.  I think in a perfect world, all these games would've been multiplatform (Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, White Knight Chronicles, Valkyria Profile, etc).  I bet Mistwalker could've found a different backer if they really wanted to.

Though actually from a personal perspective it is better they are exclusive as it means they get released sooner and are optimised for their platform