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I wonder if DQ9 will remain Wii exclusive or will it be the first DQ to be launched multiplatform... still Im not seeing any major publisher dumping the Wii anytime soon, and we will probably get plenty of quality games from smaller devs, now that the big sharks are swimming less in the sea



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You need to clarify more clearly on the context on some of the statements, for one Capcom said they'll focus on releasing fewer but higher quality games on the Wii which means less ports and dmakes, Sega made comments but some of the titles they only published not developed outside HOTD what have they really done to push the envelope development wise for the Wii. Namco seem determined to grab the rpg throne for the Wii as they have quite few lined up and the's no main line FF game to trouble them in fact until DQX arrives they don't have to worry about Square Enix at all while Konami tbh have been quiet through out this gen on all platforms.

If we were to really look at who matters the most development wise it would Ubisoft, Capcom and Namco while Sega are good publishers for the Wii, throughout the past 3 years it's mainly been these four as third parties who have stuck around and it doesn't look like they're going anywhere tbh despite any comments the lure of trying to break into this userbase is too much.



Xxain said:
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Xxain said:
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All those games you listed are released or to long in development tocancel if they wanted, alot of the fuss is about the future announces for the Wii

Well the fact that 2010 has only started has caused me to be a little more "wait and see" about this, for I don't wanna be overly optimistic that things will take a 180 turn in favor of the Wii, but I don't want to be all doom and gloom either.  It annoys me when people say that Wii has no third-party games coming this year, a) because a lot of them ARE, in fact, coming this year, and b) We haven't even heard.  Now granted, last year wasn't exactly a rosy year for 3rd-parties on Wii, but we don't know how this year will turn out.  If anything, I think I want to hold off on making any predictions.


I agree.. just Tretes's thread was about Wii announcements in 2010..which is his worry

I know it would be nice if Wii had the same support as XBox360 and PS3, but not all of its third party titles are shovelware.  It is unfortunate that many of them didn't find the audience they should have, but considering that these two HD systems are more risky, cost-wise, and the Wii is the least expensive of the three, I don't see a complete abandonment.

Now granted I don't know what other ambitious projects are in store for Wii, but I'd rather wait until E3 than worry over ranting threads.  THEN we'll see what will happen.


I agree again if E3 comes and nothing noticeable from 3rd parties then it would be time to worry

ideally something should have come out last E3

as if its announced in 2010 (big 3rd party games) that means they won't show up till 2011/2012 & so on and the cycle continues

better late than never though



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Sorry but this might seem a bit like a rant but there is no need anyone needs to damage control what 3rd parties are saying I feel.

What do you scale back to when the initial effort was minor or crap to begin with? These companies are acting as if they had some huge effort on the system and were making tons of games for it. Much of what they did in the past was token gestures and shovelware they thought people were stupid enough to buy (they didn't). So when they say they are going to be focusing more on the PS3/360 one has to ask what they were focusing on before because it wasn't the Wii. When they say they are scaling back one has to wonder scaling back to what? Less of the crap they have tried to pass off on the system? They can't be scaling back high profile games because we haven't had any. The decent games they might have put out where sent out to die. So they can't scale back advertising since many don't even bother with that.

Even now here is talk of Ubisoft lower expectations for Red Steel 2. It was a huge unknown if they were treat the game seriously but the lowered expectations can only mean less advertising or even no advertising.

Capcom. Yes they have Tats vs Capcom and Monster Hunter 3 but even that's questionable. Nintendo had to step up in terms of advertising for the Monster Hunter 3 in Europe and most likely America too. This when it's the same Capcom that had no problem at all filling the airwaves with ads for Resident Evil 5 and Street Fighter 4. The Tats vs Capcom ad that is out only has what 6 seconds if not less of actual gameplay footage and the rest of the 30 seconds ad looks like a damn Robot Chicken episode.

Konami said up front they were doing nothing at all to push or advertise Silent Hill. If they did that to that game and then they will continue to do it for anything else coming out of it when it comes to the Wii

EA.... The EA Sports section is the only one doing a decent job thought they did seriously screw up Madden and that still makes no sense. Outside of that EA has been a huge disappointment.

Sega is worthless now. The Conduit was fun but they only published that and the bulk of the work was done before they came on board.

Square-Enix is all over the place. They will go to the highest bidder and had to due to the amount of money they put into FF13. They are using the DS as a dumping ground for their old games in a way. At least they initially were with the GBA. The remakes have some effort into them. However they tend in a way send Crystal Bearers out to die and seemingly didn't bother explaining to the gaming press outfits what the game actually was leading to reviews all over the place.

Nah. Third party developers/publisher deserve all the hate negatively directed at them I feel.



Last E3 was empty, now why would this E3 be any different after the recent statements from the biggest 3rd party devs?

TGS was empty, with no announcements for the Wii if I remember correctly. I have the feeling that some people keep on changing the dates when 3rd party devs will finally announce games for the Wii and are only lying to themselves.

Last year, after the record breaking 2008 we didn't see shit from them, in fact since 2007 we haven't seen much and all I did was list the announced games for each platform. Believe what you want.



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It was noble of you to try to defend 3rd parties, but they don't deserve it. Everything is indicating that the Industry is moving upmarket after their failed attempt at creating a "casual market". This means moving away from Wii development, not focusing more on it. Every decent 3rd party game coming out has been known about for years, meaning they were green lighted before their new movement.

If 3rd parties ever want to stop treating us like filth, we'll be waiting here, but majority of us have given up on them.



I don't see any big third party games coming out in the future, but I can't predict the future either.



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hunter_alien said:
I wonder if DQ9 will remain Wii exclusive or will it be the first DQ to be launched multiplatform... still Im not seeing any major publisher dumping the Wii anytime soon, and we will probably get plenty of quality games from smaller devs, now that the big sharks are swimming less in the sea

Wrong game, that was already out for the DS; the Wii is getting DQX.  I don't know when that is coming out, but it WILL definitely be a hot-seller.

EDIT:  There HAVE been quite a lot of mediocre to bad 3rd party titles on the Wii, I agree.  But for the titles that manage to rise above that stigma, I DO have to give credit to where credit is do.  Yes, I WOULD like to see 3rd-parties step up their game, but I'm not into bashing anybody or anything.



The volume of announcements does seem to be winding down, but the bulk of 3rd party games that we've been aware of for the past few years are launching, so we should soon be seeing announcements for what (if anything) is in store for the last years of Wii's life.

 

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The volume of announcements does seem to be winding down, but the bulk of 3rd party games that we've been aware of for the past few years are launching, so we should soon be seeing announcements for what (if anything) is in store for the last years of Wii's life.

 

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure the whole thing won't be all "doom and gloom" like I'm seeing here.  For every throwaway "shovelware" title, there is a gem hidden beneath the rubble... and I'm sure we'll still get a few of those gems from some 3rd parties, if not particularly big ones.