So you're saying that Nintendo should just do the bare minimum and we should all be fine with that?

You probably wouldn't complain if NSMB Wii had no form of multiplayer local or otherwise. Neither would I. But I appreciate when developers put in the extra effort to make a better product. In fact, I expect that from Nintendo as well as Sony and Microsoft, as first party publishers. And Im sure you do too.

Its not all genius on top at Nintendo either, look at this tidbit for instance;

http://www.gamespot.com/gba/puzzle/warioware/news.html?sid=6102100

I know its an old piece but it seems like Iwata still feels this way and it is an archaic way of thinking imo.

10m people can be wrong about alot of things, for one saying that windows vista is better than mac...vista had tons of probs..but it still beat out macs, those customers were wrong *im one of them lulz*...they can be wrong, anyone can be wrong...just because everyone is doing somehintg it doesnt mean its the best thing to do *most of the time it does but not all the time*

Yes there is, you just don't CARE about the reason, so you choose to ignore it.

The Wii doesn't have HD graphics because Nintendo wanted to keep the entry price to owning their new console low, from launch.

The games don't havve amazing visuals because the console doesn't support them.

The Wii has shitty voice chat because it has to be safe for children, with some available opinion for inattentive parents to listen in.

The Wii has friend codes to prevent children from interacting with strangers against their parents permission.

The Wii has casual games because it is owned by a ton of casual gamers who like them, and children who would rather play a Spongebob game than Final Fantasy XIII. The core gamers and Nintendo faithful are in the minority.

That said, it is a completely ignorant myth that "the Wii has no good games."

Zack and Wiki

Dead Space Extraction

HotD:Overkill

Muramasa: TDB

Madworld

Twilight Princess

Metroid Prime Trilogy

DeBlob

Mario Galaxy

Mario Kart

Little King's Story

Punch Out

Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition

Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn

Super Paper Mario 3

Brawl

New Super Mario Brothers Wii

Wii Sports

Wii Sports Resort

Shattered Memories

Rock Band series

Guitar Hero series

Okami

Animal Crossing

World of Goo

Virtual Console

Backwards Compatibility with Gamecube

A lot of those games are exclusive. The Wii is a damn fine next generation console, and it has a shitload of great games..

The thing is, we're internet fanboys. We discuss a plethora of games that we will never, nor ever have played, all day, and attempt to compare libraries of consoles to each other in an attempt to ascertain superiority.

The Wii is an easier target, because the nerd elite(entheusiast press, aka entheuastic fans who posted enough on the message forum to learn how to write a decent paper) tend to side with the consoles they play all the time, which are the consoles that let them take advantage of their expensive HDTVs and modern technology.

Truth is, neither HD console is very original, and the only reason they have anything on the Wii, is their graphics, and 3rd party support, which in reality, Nintendo couldn't do anything about to begin with. The HD twins are copies. They are very close too identical graphically, and thus,, ,can be ported to and fro easily. The Wii isn't. It's different, and thus, can't be ported to easily, and it often left out of the loop. That's the price you pay for being different, but not having as good of a library as the Xbox 360 dooesn't mean there are no good games. That's bull. Not that you implied that Kyliedog, but just in case you were thinking it.

LOL funny stuff. IGN is about as wrong as feeding hamburger to a cow. Over the past 5 years they've become a shadow of their former selves, their editors all became these self-fulfilled prophets with an overbearing sense of entitlement. In fact, I think I'd take a non-gamers perspective on gaming more seriously and for more value than the people at IGN. Just food for thought.

I didn't say 10 million people can't be wrong, I said 10 million customers can't be wrong. They have spoken with their dollar and are saying that they perfer NSMBWii to other games. Why is that wrong?

I'm sorry, did you say something?

Good job taking one right out of IGNs playbook.  You setup a lot of people fore a good argument thread, just like IGN does every week.

No. I recognize work beyond the simple lengthening of a features list. The work required to get those levels to be as fun and enjoyable as they are is immense. For some reason people completely forget that solid gameplay, and level design take a serious amount of work. As does bug testing, and fine tuning of mechanics. These are the areas Nintendo has spent the most time on recently. These are the areas of a game important to me. As such, I am perfectly happen. Claiming they are putting forth the bare minimum effort is either ignorant, hyperbolic, or trolling.

its not wrong, but 10m customers CAN be wrong about thier purchase, NSMB is not a case though

So you admit that the customers that bought NSMBWii were not wrong for buying the game?