Well, I haven't played Darksiders, I hear they are both good games, sales don't equal quality, and again, reviewers think its better, but more importantly, really, it's hard to compare these games.

The thing I find interesting, is that people are actually excited that a Clover game might fail, because of simple console bias. Bayonetta "failing" is bad for gamers in general, and it's only good if you want to end up playing nothing but more of the same old boring, overhyped, redone shit, with better graphics, which ironically, is most prominent in console exclusives.

I think most of you would probably enjoy that though. It pains me that even here, I can't escape the casual frat-boy gaming mentality. Potentially the only series that does reinvent itself, Final Fantasy, has a large hate community on this site, because why? Because it isn't the same old boring recycled shit with different names over the characters and better graphics.

It's just so wrong to be excited that a Clover game might fail. It's like getting excited when a baby turtle dies on its way down the beach to the ocean. It's not cool, or hip, and it's not standing up for your console, or whatever misguided motivation you believe guides you to your excitement. It's just wrong. It's cutting off your nose to spite your face, and though Clover games are some of the best and most original games ever released, people don't give a shit about them, because they would rather play Madden, or FPS 3: The Reckoning.

Go watch transformers and play Madden, I give up.

No it's because the character feels and looks like a 80'british spanking porn librarian.

So who would you want to play as horesemen or porn star- the ironic novelty wears off instantly.

Im just glad it failed. I dont like these shinanigans by capcoma and sony

....didn't your mother ever tell you not to judge a book by its cover, and furthermore, shouldn't you resent people who do?

That's fair. Usually I either just take the death (since checkpoints are nice and plentiful) or concoct myself a mega green lollipop.

A lot of people are turned off by Bayonetta's campy Japanese randomness while most Americans will see a dude with a massive sword riding a flaming horse and think "that's badass!".

I cannot agree more with ya. Just even after playing the PS3 Bayonetta demo, I got the impression that it dominates over DMC4 in all aspects except for Dante. Using Nero was sooooooooo bad... And I'm a big DMC fan but man, Bayonetta's combo system really works outs.

But there's one thing I don't agree with what you said before about how Bayonetta's battle system and actions are so fluid and flowing that it makes other combat games look like wooden. Yes it very flowing and everything really feels tight in combos but that doesn't make God of War look like 'wooden' combat. GOW is very fluid and flowing and Kratos just unleashing his Blades is just amazing. Though GOWIII won't have as much combos as Bayonetta, in terms of the hack and slash controls and combos, GOW is just my type of thing.

So yeah I would say Bayonetta does make DMC 4 look like piss wooden (Nero parts only) and other hack and slash but not GOW. That's on a different level.

Didn't your publisher ever tell you that your mom doesn't know shit about selling books? 

Only a real man can play a game like Bayonetta!

If you're a guy that is comfortable with his being and you can wear a pink shirt confidently in public...this game is for you!

Are you people really surprsing tha the game isn't selling good? I noticed it only by watchin gthe 15 minutes intro cutscene.

http://vgchartz.com/swlaunch.php?reg1=America&game1=MadWorld+-+Wii[22383]&reg2=America&game2=Bayonetta+-+PS3[25465]&reg3=America&game3=Bayonetta+-+X360[25464]&weeks=100&weekly=1

It's not doing worse in first week sales for either platform.  I guess Madworld might have more legs, but I don't see that as being something I would bet on.