Cook wars sold only 10 k ? It deserved more.

When was the focus from Ubi NOT on HD consoles? The funny thing about all this is I'm trying to figure out where their presence would be missed on Wii..No more Petz and horzes?

Basically what this tells me is the Wii audience isn't buying anymore of their crap.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

You are right on that account.   Although I think Mario Party is made by Hudson not Nintendo.   At any rate, I think the difference is Iwata.

Killing Mario Party was probably a good move (or at least delaying the next edition) as future yearly editions would have sold less and less, especially with the Wii crowd.     A MP9 with BB and WM+ support would certainly be justified now though.

I don't blame Ubisoft for that.   The Avatar games are actually not bad, given the short development time movie games have.  You can't make a AAA game for a movie and release the same time as the movie (unless it's extremely simply or short).  An AAA game would need another year development time.

But strategies change quickly. Nintendo also released really low-quality Mario spinoffs in the NES days, but I think they've learned to treat their killer IP with more respect since then. I'm more concerned with what Nintendo is doing nowadays than mistakes they may have made in the past.

I don't get why some people got upset at first - is not like Ubisoft use to release big blockbusters on the Wii. On the contrary, it kept pulling down Wii's overall software quality by releasing crappy game after crappy game, like if the small companies doing it wasn't already enough.

It's because the strategy you listed is much more important now that they have the ps2 killer. The sheer number of consoles nintendo moves per week ensures great legs on their games. In fact, going by the trend they could probably sell another 3m units in the next 5 years without releasing another installment. Right now, MPWii has 7.5M in sales. Subtract 3m from that, and you get 4.5. So, a new installment would sell 4.5 million units more than this one would sell, in the same time period...or it could be less. Sequels don't do too well on the wii, and one mario party may be enough for the casual audience.

Anyway, new and used Mario Party is still in the high 30$, and in some cases 45-50$. 4.5m*50$=225m.

Obviously the time is ripe for a new mario party because 225m more than makes up for development costs. However, a year ago, the profit would be something like 120m...so while a release a year ago might've netted say 12 times the dev costs, a new installment now would net 22 times the dev cost, so it's a much better investment.

Well, IW actually wanted to take CoD 2 into the modern era on consoles, but activision wanted to keep it in WWII on PC, so the compromise was WW II on PC and consoles. They then thought they should release it on PS2 as well to cash it, and that was where they got the idea of the 2nd developer, and then they just thought about milking it to death. Activision were very reluctant to take it into the modern setting

All this is with an interview with Vince Zampella (the head of IW), so you may want to take some of itwith a pinch of salt

I'm not arguing that. I'm just pointing out that it's happened before, contrary to the "never" claim. Pedantic, sure, but I'm bored.

Bottom line: I'm right you're wrong and there's nothing you can do about it.

LOL, okay, I edited the word Wii into that post so that we're clear about what's important here.

You're right, I'm wrong... but I can change, I swear!