i'm fine how it is, puzzle/enemy # wise.

now i would love MORE different types of enemies, and have more that have defense actually. you know like the huge knights that you can only hit in the back until you knock off so much armor, or even the lizards who you have to attack right before they hit you. stuff like that, were you do attack combos to hurt enemies. i am annoyed by most of the easy fights where you just slash and it hits them all the time. they have no defense, and basically hitting them does the same damage no matter where you hit them

^^ that's nice to hear n_n

that and the comment Reggie made earlier is really comforting that Nintendo are trying to deliver the goods with Zelda Wii

hahahahahaha :P good one

I would alos like to ad some more ideas from Fable and Assassins Creed (If you havent allready discovered these are my most favoured game series) Instead of link following the typical discovery of new weapons he should be able to disarm enemies, or pick up a dead enemies weapon and use it to kill other enemies and then keep the weapons for re-sale or to re-use. A real adventurer could walk into any weapons shop and have at least 30 odd weapons for his choosing. Not just 3 or so swords, and a bow. Link should have that same option. The player should be able to buy weapons with advantages and disadvantages that suit their combat style. I've allways found the few items available in the shops to be a little weak. I completly understand that it focuses the game, but a little user customisation of link would be great.

Also I like the way in Fable when you die you get scars that stay with you for the rest of the game, link should have this same atribute. Also instead of always beeing a kid, or an adult, or what ever link could grow a little while players are playing. I love it when a character evolves over the course of a game and at the end looks totaly different but to you they look very similar. then you go back and start the game again and realise how much your character had grown. Like looking at baby photos.

I find all these advancements we've been talking about will bring Zelda out of the teen market, because lets face it the game is simple and it hand feeds you alot, as if you were a noob. It would be nicer to have a Zelda game that pushes a gamers gaming ability. A ture mature zelda, for the harder core gamers, not a zelda for the casual gamer or the beginner gamer.

its not a bad thing to take ideas from these other games. Nintendo need to focus zelda I think. The focused a version of zelda with cell shading, but they need to focus the next non cell shaded zelda in a way that lets us know exactly what nintendo want zelda to be. At the moment there are many other distinctive series out there. The 3 I play are elder scrolls, assassins creed and fable. Each are very different but they do overlap in alot of areas. At the moment every element of zelda is suck in the last gen. It has its own distinctive elements but these are just simpler versions of the elements found in these other RPG and adventure games.

Assassins creed focuses on combat from an assassins point of view. Fable focuses on the players interaction and shaping of the world around them, and elder scrolls is just pure rpg goodness in all its glory. At the moment Zelda is just a shalow adventure game with a story line and world every one has come to love because of its history. It makes no advancements for the gaming industry to stand back and be like "wow we must follow zeldas lead" but because this is nintendo I believe they should be shaking the industry with their games! because thats all they ever talk about with the wii, but I'm yet to see them make a wii game that advances the industry as far as game play mechanics go. adding motion controls is not a game play advancing mechanic, its just a substitute for pressing a button.

That is, of course, ignoring the fact that the opinions of online fans rarely if ever reflects those of the mass populace. And popularity still has little to do with quality.

As for me, as you aptly put it, I don't care very much what other people think. It doesn't bother me if you don't like the next Zelda, so I have nothing to lose by banking on the fact that Nintendo will not go out of their way to appease you. See, I know what kind of game I want the next Zelda to be, and I also know that the fans' poorly thought out fixes generally aren't it. That's just the cold truth, my friend.

Wow, I could not disagree with that more. Zelda needs to be Zelda, not Fable. The first Zelda had almost no interaction with other people. That's what Zelda is, exploring the overworld and finding dunegoens and such. If you want games like those, play those. Link is not an assassin.

I take it you haven't played Wii Sports Resort. The motion controls in the sword fighting most definitely add to the gameplay.

yes yes this is all just pointless this rambling we are going on with. In order to make a game appeal to the mass audience and attract the most sales it has to be accessable by the youngest, the oldest and the in betweene. And thats what nintendo does brilliantly. And because this is what nintendo do we will never get a zelda that does what we, the gamers want, it will allways be what the mass market casual gamers want and we just make do with it because it is actually quality gaming even if it isnt pushing the boundaries of modern gaming and gaming thought

I wish Zelda Wii was directed by Takashi Tezuka instead of Eiji Aonuma. Sadly it's not. Tezuka seemed to have a proper understanding of what Zelda should be about - accessability, in medias res, exploration and lots of frantic arcade style action.

As Maelstrom implied; Aonuma=Lolo, Tezuka=Zelda as it should be.

I don't think the game should focus more on combat overall, but I would like what combat there is to be of a higher and more complex standard, particularly the boss battles.

I'm fine with it...