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ameratsu said:

If there's any ps3 only owner here who is a Devil May Cry or Ninja Gaiden fan and is avoiding this altogether because of an inferior version, it's their loss. Yes the x360 version is better but this game is still worth your money. Honest.

What if the x360 version didn't exist and the ps3 version still turned out like it did? Would you still avoid it? Didn't think so..

While I largely agree with you, there is the opinion that buying an inferior version may provide justification to the developers that it isn't worth putting in the extra efforts to make their games equal. Of course we may just have to accept that not every developer is capable (or can afford) to make all PS3 games equal to their 360 counterparts and sometimes an inferior version is better than no version at all.



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CrazyHorse said:
ameratsu said:

If there's any ps3 only owner here who is a Devil May Cry or Ninja Gaiden fan and is avoiding this altogether because of an inferior version, it's their loss. Yes the x360 version is better but this game is still worth your money. Honest.

What if the x360 version didn't exist and the ps3 version still turned out like it did? Would you still avoid it? Didn't think so..

While I largely agree with you, there is the opinion that buying an inferior version may provide justification to the developers that it isn't worth putting in the extra efforts to make their games equal. Of course we may just have to accept that not every developer is capable (or can afford) to make all PS3 games equal to their 360 counterparts and sometimes an inferior version is better than no version at all.

It wouldn't be such a big deal normally, if it wasn't for the fact that the PS3 version is inferior by quite a margin. The 360 version isn't just 'better', it trounces the PS3 version.



Note to all those who have only tried the PS3 demo.....that's the game running at it's best.

It's still a good game on the PS3. Just a shame it was ported so soon. Should've been given a lot longer to optimise or at least start from scratch.



V-r0cK said:

There are actually some PS3-only owners that refuse to buy the game for the simple reason that its inferior to the 360.  Im playing Bayonetta currently on my PS3 and its still definately worth it. 

If those PS3-only owners that will rather wait to get this game cheap but will still eventually get it then good for you.  Those that simply wont pick it up ever then its really your loss, cause they'll really be missing out on one of the best hack n' slack this gen. 

Bayonetta is a great game to start the new year if those are still waiting for the March games.

I can understand why some people will opt not to buy it as some sort of  a protest against SEGA. But IMO, it wasn't SEGA's intention to make an inferior port. If anything, I believe they were trying to make  it as equal as possible. SEGA wouldn't want to tarnish its reputation by intentionally making the PS3 version inferior. If anything, it would  hurt SEGA also as other companies would think twice before enlisting SEGA's services to port their games. This would mean  loss of business opportunities for them.

I think what happend was SEGA ran out of time and or money and had to go ahead and launch the game as it is.

But to not buy it just because its 360 counter part is a bit better is a  bit silly. Why deprive yourself of expriencing or playing a good game? just becuase some elses is better? reminds me of how children think. kinda like "hey, your balloon is slightly bigger than mine! i dont want my balloon anymore!"

If all else fails, we can  always say to ourselves while playing our PS3 version of bayonetta "Dragon age origin is better on PS3 so is darksiders :P".

 

 

 



Rainbird said:
CrazyHorse said:
ameratsu said:

If there's any ps3 only owner here who is a Devil May Cry or Ninja Gaiden fan and is avoiding this altogether because of an inferior version, it's their loss. Yes the x360 version is better but this game is still worth your money. Honest.

What if the x360 version didn't exist and the ps3 version still turned out like it did? Would you still avoid it? Didn't think so..

While I largely agree with you, there is the opinion that buying an inferior version may provide justification to the developers that it isn't worth putting in the extra efforts to make their games equal. Of course we may just have to accept that not every developer is capable (or can afford) to make all PS3 games equal to their 360 counterparts and sometimes an inferior version is better than no version at all.

It wouldn't be such a big deal normally, if it wasn't for the fact that the PS3 version is inferior by quite a margin. The 360 version isn't just 'better', it trounces the PS3 version.

But if your a PS3 owner only, it wouldn't really mater as you won't be able to play the 360 version for comparison. Since you can't compare, a good game will still be a good game right?



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Rainbird said:
If I had no plans of ever owning a 360, I would get the PS3 version. But I do want a 360, and since it is supposedly such a good game, I don't want it to be spoiled by the technical issues that are galore on the PS3 version.

Thank you!



ils411 said:
V-r0cK said:

There are actually some PS3-only owners that refuse to buy the game for the simple reason that its inferior to the 360.  Im playing Bayonetta currently on my PS3 and its still definately worth it. 

If those PS3-only owners that will rather wait to get this game cheap but will still eventually get it then good for you.  Those that simply wont pick it up ever then its really your loss, cause they'll really be missing out on one of the best hack n' slack this gen. 

Bayonetta is a great game to start the new year if those are still waiting for the March games.

I can understand why some people will opt not to buy it as some sort of  a protest against SEGA. But IMO, it wasn't SEGA's intention to make an inferior port. If anything, I believe they were trying to make  it as equal as possible. SEGA wouldn't want to tarnish its reputation by intentionally making the PS3 version inferior. If anything, it would  hurt SEGA also as other companies would think twice before enlisting SEGA's services to port their games. This would mean  loss of business opportunities for them.

I think what happend was SEGA ran out of time and or money and had to go ahead and launch the game as it is.

But to not buy it just because its 360 counter part is a bit better is a  bit silly. Why deprive yourself of expriencing or playing a good game? just becuase some elses is better? reminds me of how children think. kinda like "hey, your balloon is slightly bigger than mine! i dont want my balloon anymore!"

If all else fails, we can  always say to ourselves while playing our PS3 version of bayonetta "Dragon age origin is better on PS3 so is darksiders :P".

lol nice analogy, so true its childish.  Funny fact is although Dragon Age is better on PS3, Dragon Age sold like +500k more on 360 than on PS3.  Wouldnt be surprised if the same happens with Darksiders.  This just tells me that 360 owners are smarter to not pass up on a good game just cause they have the more "inferior" version.



ils411 said:
Rainbird said:
CrazyHorse said:
ameratsu said:

If there's any ps3 only owner here who is a Devil May Cry or Ninja Gaiden fan and is avoiding this altogether because of an inferior version, it's their loss. Yes the x360 version is better but this game is still worth your money. Honest.

What if the x360 version didn't exist and the ps3 version still turned out like it did? Would you still avoid it? Didn't think so..

While I largely agree with you, there is the opinion that buying an inferior version may provide justification to the developers that it isn't worth putting in the extra efforts to make their games equal. Of course we may just have to accept that not every developer is capable (or can afford) to make all PS3 games equal to their 360 counterparts and sometimes an inferior version is better than no version at all.

It wouldn't be such a big deal normally, if it wasn't for the fact that the PS3 version is inferior by quite a margin. The 360 version isn't just 'better', it trounces the PS3 version.

But if your a PS3 owner only, it wouldn't really mater as you won't be able to play the 360 version for comparison. Since you can't compare, a good game will still be a good game right?

If only the PS3 version existed, I'd still be pissed at the technical quality, because I hate graphical glitches. There may not be a superior version of the game, but it'd still be chuck full of graphical glitches, that would turn me off from the game.

If I had no other option, I might have gone for the PS3 version if I found it while it's cheap.



V-r0cK said:
ils411 said:
V-r0cK said:

There are actually some PS3-only owners that refuse to buy the game for the simple reason that its inferior to the 360.  Im playing Bayonetta currently on my PS3 and its still definately worth it. 

If those PS3-only owners that will rather wait to get this game cheap but will still eventually get it then good for you.  Those that simply wont pick it up ever then its really your loss, cause they'll really be missing out on one of the best hack n' slack this gen. 

Bayonetta is a great game to start the new year if those are still waiting for the March games.

I can understand why some people will opt not to buy it as some sort of  a protest against SEGA. But IMO, it wasn't SEGA's intention to make an inferior port. If anything, I believe they were trying to make  it as equal as possible. SEGA wouldn't want to tarnish its reputation by intentionally making the PS3 version inferior. If anything, it would  hurt SEGA also as other companies would think twice before enlisting SEGA's services to port their games. This would mean  loss of business opportunities for them.

I think what happend was SEGA ran out of time and or money and had to go ahead and launch the game as it is.

But to not buy it just because its 360 counter part is a bit better is a  bit silly. Why deprive yourself of expriencing or playing a good game? just becuase some elses is better? reminds me of how children think. kinda like "hey, your balloon is slightly bigger than mine! i dont want my balloon anymore!"

If all else fails, we can  always say to ourselves while playing our PS3 version of bayonetta "Dragon age origin is better on PS3 so is darksiders :P".

lol nice analogy, so true its childish.  Funny fact is although Dragon Age is better on PS3, Dragon Age sold like +500k more on 360 than on PS3.  Wouldnt be surprised if the same happens with Darksiders.  This just tells me that 360 owners are smarter to not pass up on a good game just cause they have the more "inferior" version.

 

Your example isn't a good comparaison. The difference between Dragon Age Origins PS3 VS X360 a just insignifiant. Eurogamers even said that the versions are equal. Bayonetta X360 run at 60 FPS, the PS3 version 30 FPS, and I wil not speak about the texture and light effect rendering...

If X360 players are more interested by Dragons Age than the PS3 owner, it can be due the lack of new games provided to their console... Just compare the number of good game edited on PS3 during the last 6 months and you will understand why Dragon Age Origins doesn't appear has a first choice for PS3 gamers.

 

In the case of Bayonetta, the PS3 port is really a crap compared to the lead one ! And you cannot blam player that prefere to wait and buy it cheaper, just because they do not want to encourage this kind of nonsense (crapy port) ! And to finish with your bad example, despite is inferiority, the PS3 version has currently sold more than twice the X360 version. You can see now how your argument about the "smart' of the X360 players is absurd !



Jojo51 said:

Your example isn't a good comparaison. The difference between Dragon Age Origins PS3 VS X360 a just insignifiant. Eurogamers even said that the versions are equal. Bayonetta X360 run at 60 FPS, the PS3 version 30 FPS, and I wil not speak about the texture and light effect rendering...

If X360 players are more interested by Dragons Age than the PS3 owner, it can be due the lack of new games provided to their console... Just compare the number of good game edited on PS3 during the last 6 months and you will understand why Dragon Age Origins doesn't appear has a first choice for PS3 gamers.

 

In the case of Bayonetta, the PS3 port is really a crap compared to the lead one ! And you cannot blam player that prefere to wait and buy it cheaper, just because they do not want to encourage this kind of nonsense (crapy port) ! And to finish with your bad example, despite is inferiority, the PS3 version has currently sold more than twice the X360 version. You can see now how your argument about the "smart' of the X360 players is absurd !

Im going to take it this post is towards me from my post?  Well i never posted an example so maybe its not towards me?  You say the 360 lacked new games in the last 6 months?  I guess (exclusives) Forza 3, L4D2, Halo ODST were nothing.     

And what PS3 version sold twice more than the 360 version? Bayonetta? I havent seen any numbers so please link me. 

My "argument about the smart of 360" was just a fun joke yet could have a little truth behind it =D.  However jokingly in my head to make up the difference in Dragon Age sales of both versions, the other PS3 owners that didnt want Dragon Age went and bought Demon's Souls instead lol