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CGI-Quality said:
Barozi said:
CGI-Quality said:
Barozi said:
A bit overhyped yes, but no too much

Gameplay is exactly the same as in Uncharted 1. It's just a bit longer and has multiplayer.

But hardly the game of the gen or something I hear so often from enthusiastic PS3 fans.

Disagree.

OT: Nope, I can't say that it is. I think it deserved all the hype it got. Then again, i don't really think many games are "overhyped", but some are overrated, in which case again, i don't think Uncharted 2 is one of them.

Care to explain what was different ?

Let's see:

A. Uncharted: Drake's Fortune had no stealth, at all.

B. The platforming, while pretty much the same, was more dynamic and frequent.

C. The way grenades are tossed was completely different.

For things to be "exactly the same", the game play would have to remain unchaenged. Uncharted 2 plays different than Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, though they are still very similar.

Reminds me of when people claimed Gears of War 2 was exactly the same as the first. It wasn't, the speed of the game alone made it feel different, even if it was similar to the first one.

A) Never tried stealth in the first game. Maybe it was possible, but because the game didn't hint it nobody actually tried it ?

It's not like you can beat the game without been seen at all. So yeah I correct myself the game is 95% identical gameplay wise.

B) As for the platforming parts, there were some chapters in the first game where you jumped and climbed more than in other chapters and I don't see the difference here. The platforming mechanics are the same.

C) Thank god they changed that, but honestly that's just saying the gameplay is totally different because they added a new weapon. It may be true, but that hardly makes any difference and should be besides that a standard for sequels.

 

Carl made a better point though. The change of the camera angle is a much better addition to the game than anything you said. (I guess that was what he meant with "aiming") I can't see how the cover mechanics or the shooting has improved though.

 

It's been a while since I've played Gears and Gears 2, but yeah AFAIR they were the same gameplay wise.



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No, it's a game that actually delivers. And to the people calling it a mere 'popcorn flick' what game isn't? No game these days reinvents the wheel. They only make incremental improvements on already established ways of playing.

The Uncharted 2 haters who have no other recourse but to argue on a scale of innovation don't realise that EVERY game these days can be criticized using the same standards. Why the fuck does it even matter? It doesn't.



Barozi said:
CGI-Quality said:
Barozi said:
CGI-Quality said:
Barozi said:
A bit overhyped yes, but no too much

Gameplay is exactly the same as in Uncharted 1. It's just a bit longer and has multiplayer.

But hardly the game of the gen or something I hear so often from enthusiastic PS3 fans.

Disagree.

OT: Nope, I can't say that it is. I think it deserved all the hype it got. Then again, i don't really think many games are "overhyped", but some are overrated, in which case again, i don't think Uncharted 2 is one of them.

Care to explain what was different ?

Let's see:

A. Uncharted: Drake's Fortune had no stealth, at all.

B. The platforming, while pretty much the same, was more dynamic and frequent.

C. The way grenades are tossed was completely different.

For things to be "exactly the same", the game play would have to remain unchaenged. Uncharted 2 plays different than Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, though they are still very similar.

Reminds me of when people claimed Gears of War 2 was exactly the same as the first. It wasn't, the speed of the game alone made it feel different, even if it was similar to the first one.

A) Never tried stealth in the first game. Maybe it was possible, but because the game didn't hint it nobody actually tried it ?

It's not like you can beat the game without been seen at all. So yeah I correct myself the game is 95% identical gameplay wise.

B) As for the platforming parts, there were some chapters in the first game where you jumped and climbed more than in other chapters and I don't see the difference here. The platforming mechanics are the same.

C) Thank god they changed that, but honestly that's just saying the gameplay is totally different because they added a new weapon. It may be true, but that hardly makes any difference and should be besides that a standard for sequels.

 

Carl made a better point though. The change of the camera angle is a much better addition to the game than anything you said. (I guess that was what he meant with "aiming") I can't see how the cover mechanics or the shooting has improved though.

 

It's been a while since I've played Gears and Gears 2, but yeah AFAIR they were the same gameplay wise.

A) Stealth was not possible in the first

 

B) One giant addition to gameplay was the fact that you could shoot WHILE platforming. In the first there were two sections, shooting, and platforming. In the second they are mixed as well which changes up the game quite a lot.

 

C) Already been said

 

D) Melee Fighting system was switched up (though I liked the first games brutal combo better)

 

E) Cover Mechanics were improved to allow sliding into cover, knocking objects over to create cover, remaining in cover while turning corners(might be in the first but I never saw it happen)



Yes, true. It was a bit overhyped.

When it ended, it ended. I didn't feel the epicness when I completed MGS4, GTA: SA, FF7 and so on.

Still, this game is worthy of it's praise and is GOTY for me however I still need to play AC2, Demon's Souls and GoW Collection. I had to import DS (yet to arrive) and I refuse to import GoW Collection, maybe Sony could have done me a favour and released them both here.




Feylic said:
Barozi said:
CGI-Quality said:
Barozi said:
CGI-Quality said:
Barozi said:
A bit overhyped yes, but no too much

Gameplay is exactly the same as in Uncharted 1. It's just a bit longer and has multiplayer.

But hardly the game of the gen or something I hear so often from enthusiastic PS3 fans.

Disagree.

OT: Nope, I can't say that it is. I think it deserved all the hype it got. Then again, i don't really think many games are "overhyped", but some are overrated, in which case again, i don't think Uncharted 2 is one of them.

Care to explain what was different ?

Let's see:

A. Uncharted: Drake's Fortune had no stealth, at all.

B. The platforming, while pretty much the same, was more dynamic and frequent.

C. The way grenades are tossed was completely different.

For things to be "exactly the same", the game play would have to remain unchaenged. Uncharted 2 plays different than Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, though they are still very similar.

Reminds me of when people claimed Gears of War 2 was exactly the same as the first. It wasn't, the speed of the game alone made it feel different, even if it was similar to the first one.

A) Never tried stealth in the first game. Maybe it was possible, but because the game didn't hint it nobody actually tried it ?

It's not like you can beat the game without been seen at all. So yeah I correct myself the game is 95% identical gameplay wise.

B) As for the platforming parts, there were some chapters in the first game where you jumped and climbed more than in other chapters and I don't see the difference here. The platforming mechanics are the same.

C) Thank god they changed that, but honestly that's just saying the gameplay is totally different because they added a new weapon. It may be true, but that hardly makes any difference and should be besides that a standard for sequels.

 

Carl made a better point though. The change of the camera angle is a much better addition to the game than anything you said. (I guess that was what he meant with "aiming") I can't see how the cover mechanics or the shooting has improved though.

 

It's been a while since I've played Gears and Gears 2, but yeah AFAIR they were the same gameplay wise.

A) Stealth was not possible in the first

 

B) One giant addition to gameplay was the fact that you could shoot WHILE platforming. In the first there were two sections, shooting, and platforming. In the second they are mixed as well which changes up the game quite a lot.

 

C) Already been said

 

D) Melee Fighting system was switched up (though I liked the first games brutal combo better)

 

E) Cover Mechanics were improved to allow sliding into cover, knocking objects over to create cover, remaining in cover while turning corners(might be in the first but I never saw it happen)

Stealth WAS possible in the first but there was very little of it.

And yes, the brutal combo was better in the first. Everything is right though.




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sabby_e17 said:
Feylic said:
Barozi said:
CGI-Quality said:
Barozi said:
CGI-Quality said:
Barozi said:
A bit overhyped yes, but no too much

Gameplay is exactly the same as in Uncharted 1. It's just a bit longer and has multiplayer.

But hardly the game of the gen or something I hear so often from enthusiastic PS3 fans.

Disagree.

OT: Nope, I can't say that it is. I think it deserved all the hype it got. Then again, i don't really think many games are "overhyped", but some are overrated, in which case again, i don't think Uncharted 2 is one of them.

Care to explain what was different ?

Let's see:

A. Uncharted: Drake's Fortune had no stealth, at all.

B. The platforming, while pretty much the same, was more dynamic and frequent.

C. The way grenades are tossed was completely different.

For things to be "exactly the same", the game play would have to remain unchaenged. Uncharted 2 plays different than Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, though they are still very similar.

Reminds me of when people claimed Gears of War 2 was exactly the same as the first. It wasn't, the speed of the game alone made it feel different, even if it was similar to the first one.

A) Never tried stealth in the first game. Maybe it was possible, but because the game didn't hint it nobody actually tried it ?

It's not like you can beat the game without been seen at all. So yeah I correct myself the game is 95% identical gameplay wise.

B) As for the platforming parts, there were some chapters in the first game where you jumped and climbed more than in other chapters and I don't see the difference here. The platforming mechanics are the same.

C) Thank god they changed that, but honestly that's just saying the gameplay is totally different because they added a new weapon. It may be true, but that hardly makes any difference and should be besides that a standard for sequels.

 

Carl made a better point though. The change of the camera angle is a much better addition to the game than anything you said. (I guess that was what he meant with "aiming") I can't see how the cover mechanics or the shooting has improved though.

 

It's been a while since I've played Gears and Gears 2, but yeah AFAIR they were the same gameplay wise.

A) Stealth was not possible in the first

 

B) One giant addition to gameplay was the fact that you could shoot WHILE platforming. In the first there were two sections, shooting, and platforming. In the second they are mixed as well which changes up the game quite a lot.

 

C) Already been said

 

D) Melee Fighting system was switched up (though I liked the first games brutal combo better)

 

E) Cover Mechanics were improved to allow sliding into cover, knocking objects over to create cover, remaining in cover while turning corners(might be in the first but I never saw it happen)

Stealth WAS possible in the first but there was very little of it.

And yes, the brutal combo was better in the first. Everything is right though.

O right, you could jump on guys from behind. Still, 2 added all of the stealth grabs you could do over cover, beside cover, and above.



Feylic said:
Barozi said:
CGI-Quality said:
Barozi said:
CGI-Quality said:
Barozi said:
A bit overhyped yes, but no too much

Gameplay is exactly the same as in Uncharted 1. It's just a bit longer and has multiplayer.

But hardly the game of the gen or something I hear so often from enthusiastic PS3 fans.

Disagree.

OT: Nope, I can't say that it is. I think it deserved all the hype it got. Then again, i don't really think many games are "overhyped", but some are overrated, in which case again, i don't think Uncharted 2 is one of them.

Care to explain what was different ?

Let's see:

A. Uncharted: Drake's Fortune had no stealth, at all.

B. The platforming, while pretty much the same, was more dynamic and frequent.

C. The way grenades are tossed was completely different.

For things to be "exactly the same", the game play would have to remain unchaenged. Uncharted 2 plays different than Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, though they are still very similar.

Reminds me of when people claimed Gears of War 2 was exactly the same as the first. It wasn't, the speed of the game alone made it feel different, even if it was similar to the first one.

A) Never tried stealth in the first game. Maybe it was possible, but because the game didn't hint it nobody actually tried it ?

It's not like you can beat the game without been seen at all. So yeah I correct myself the game is 95% identical gameplay wise.

B) As for the platforming parts, there were some chapters in the first game where you jumped and climbed more than in other chapters and I don't see the difference here. The platforming mechanics are the same.

C) Thank god they changed that, but honestly that's just saying the gameplay is totally different because they added a new weapon. It may be true, but that hardly makes any difference and should be besides that a standard for sequels.

 

Carl made a better point though. The change of the camera angle is a much better addition to the game than anything you said. (I guess that was what he meant with "aiming") I can't see how the cover mechanics or the shooting has improved though.

 

It's been a while since I've played Gears and Gears 2, but yeah AFAIR they were the same gameplay wise.

A) Stealth was not possible in the first

B) One giant addition to gameplay was the fact that you could shoot WHILE platforming. In the first there were two sections, shooting, and platforming. In the second they are mixed as well which changes up the game quite a lot.

C) Already been said

D) Melee Fighting system was switched up (though I liked the first games brutal combo better)

E) Cover Mechanics were improved to allow sliding into cover, knocking objects over to create cover, remaining in cover while turning corners(might be in the first but I never saw it happen)

I'm pretty sure I did that already in the first game.

Never used hand to hand combat in the first, because I think it sucks.

Anyway the differences are so minor that it doesn't matter A true change in gameplay can only be seen when playing Killzone 1 and then Killzone 2 afterwards or Burnout Revenge and then Burnout Paradise.

Uncharted series has the same gameplay, Gears of War series has the same gameplay, Call of Duty series the same gameplay and so on.



Severance said:
Same here, Demon's Souls is my GOTY
i'd like Uncharted to be more Tomb Raider and less Shooter.

That's funny, I'd like the exact opposite! Run n' gun is the fun, all else take a seat! Any interactions with the enemies are cool, so I also like the stealth. The platforming sections annoy me, as they offer no challenge at all. 

On topic, I do think it's a little overhyped. I definitely don't think it's anything like the "best game ever," though it does imitate movies better than any game I've seen - if that's your thing, I suppose. It just drives me nuts how often control is taken away from you for cinematic effect.

Fighting in a high floor on a building that's collapsing is awesome! However, platforms falling under you and being forced to watch Drake jump or roll away from helicopter fire gets tiring. I just wish you could skip the in-game "cutscenes".



I'm lost how you can say UC2 was over hyped, yet you played it 5 times in a row, it obviously delivered for you personally.



Barozi said:
Feylic said:
Barozi said:
CGI-Quality said:
Barozi said:
CGI-Quality said:
Barozi said:
A bit overhyped yes, but no too much

Gameplay is exactly the same as in Uncharted 1. It's just a bit longer and has multiplayer.

But hardly the game of the gen or something I hear so often from enthusiastic PS3 fans.

Disagree.

OT: Nope, I can't say that it is. I think it deserved all the hype it got. Then again, i don't really think many games are "overhyped", but some are overrated, in which case again, i don't think Uncharted 2 is one of them.

Care to explain what was different ?

Let's see:

A. Uncharted: Drake's Fortune had no stealth, at all.

B. The platforming, while pretty much the same, was more dynamic and frequent.

C. The way grenades are tossed was completely different.

For things to be "exactly the same", the game play would have to remain unchaenged. Uncharted 2 plays different than Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, though they are still very similar.

Reminds me of when people claimed Gears of War 2 was exactly the same as the first. It wasn't, the speed of the game alone made it feel different, even if it was similar to the first one.

A) Never tried stealth in the first game. Maybe it was possible, but because the game didn't hint it nobody actually tried it ?

It's not like you can beat the game without been seen at all. So yeah I correct myself the game is 95% identical gameplay wise.

B) As for the platforming parts, there were some chapters in the first game where you jumped and climbed more than in other chapters and I don't see the difference here. The platforming mechanics are the same.

C) Thank god they changed that, but honestly that's just saying the gameplay is totally different because they added a new weapon. It may be true, but that hardly makes any difference and should be besides that a standard for sequels.

 

Carl made a better point though. The change of the camera angle is a much better addition to the game than anything you said. (I guess that was what he meant with "aiming") I can't see how the cover mechanics or the shooting has improved though.

 

It's been a while since I've played Gears and Gears 2, but yeah AFAIR they were the same gameplay wise.

A) Stealth was not possible in the first

B) One giant addition to gameplay was the fact that you could shoot WHILE platforming. In the first there were two sections, shooting, and platforming. In the second they are mixed as well which changes up the game quite a lot.

C) Already been said

D) Melee Fighting system was switched up (though I liked the first games brutal combo better)

E) Cover Mechanics were improved to allow sliding into cover, knocking objects over to create cover, remaining in cover while turning corners(might be in the first but I never saw it happen)

I'm pretty sure I did that already in the first game.

Never used hand to hand combat in the first, because I think it sucks.

Anyway the differences are so minor that it doesn't matter A true change in gameplay can only be seen when playing Killzone 1 and then Killzone 2 afterwards or Burnout Revenge and then Burnout Paradise.

Uncharted series has the same gameplay, Gears of War series has the same gameplay, Call of Duty series the same gameplay and so on.

Uncharted 3: Go Kart Racing?