Believe it or not but there are people out there who prefer the PS3, it's games and have zero interest in the 360.

Shocking I know but the real world is different to what you've read on the internet. I would put my stock in what a spotty 12yo 360 fanboy tells you on the net.

Look what I did ! My version works better though, since according to sales PS3 sells more while being more expansive, and PS3 average user is older, I guess that means there are more 12 yo fanboys on 360 side.

For example, I have zero interest in 360. Even at 50$, I don't know if I'd buy one.

Seems like it is still cranking along pretty good to me.

I can tell you the two words that'd make me pick a Ps3 over a 360...and that's all I'd need on top of everything else....

Standard Parts


Standard 2.5" HDD...Mine's 350GB (My brother's is 500GB, He'd never be able to keep everything he has on the XBox proprietary drives)....USB Devices and controller charging via USB as well...so I ordered me 2 15Ft Monoprice cables and then I can be anywhere in the room and still have more than enough cable to charge and play if need be

Basically it comes down to this.
The PS3 is winning because

- More bang for your buck (more features for less price)

- PS3 and 360 have a lot of overlap anyway

- (and to a lesser extent) PS3 has more exclusives (this is only a slight advantage in the marketplace because there are a lot more console gamers than there are 'core' pc gamers. Most people prefer to be playing on their couch and don't feel like hauling their desktop to their living room (if they have one that can play these games to begin with). Many gamers don't feel like going through lots of troubleshooting to get a game to work. They just want to pop a disc in and play. This is why games like Left 4 Dead sell so well on the 360. If you count "console exclusives", the 360 has the advantage.)

And at this point, if you are in the market for a 360, it's because
- You want to play with your 360-owning friends online (360 install base is 80+% greater than the PS3 install base in Americas). Though if you still haven't got a 360, then either this isn't important to you or you are just financially strapped for cash or you just simply don't want to pay $300 + $35-50/year for it.

- They like the greater convenience of communication with their friends on Xbox Live (ie. universal cross game chat. I believe PSN doesn't have it at the moment right? It's coming in the future but the fact that it took this long has probably hurt the PS3's appeal.)

- You want to play the 360 exclusives

- You like the controller (I have seen this reason be used)


If I were to go "NextGen" now as opposed to early 2009 (I was swamped with assignments, exams, etc. so that's why I didn't get it immediately after the price cut to $300 like many people did.), I'd still go with the 360 for the install base advantage (I know more people with a 360 than a PS3) but the PS3 would have definitely looked more appealing at $300 than at $400. Absolutely.

I disagree with that. I think PS3 has the edge in exclusives, both in quality and quantity...

Most 360 'exclusives' are either available on PC or are former exclusives now available on PS3 (tales of, star ocean, bioshock, ninja gaiden 2...), the few left are mostly shooters (halo, gears).

Then there are Sony exclusives which have no equivalent on 360 (like lbp, uncharted, ratchet or mgs4, then gt5, gow 3, the last guardian, heavy rain...). Those are real exclusives you can't play anywhere else.

You obviously didn't read that entire paragraph did you? I already explained why console exclusivity is a big bonus for many gamers.

Btw Tales of Vesperia is STILL exclusive to the 360 in NA and EU. If you want to play it, you have to learn Japanese or Namco has to localize it or translate it to English for an Asian release or something. And right now it's not clear whether a english version is coming. Still no announcement yet. This could be another ToS-esque scenario (GC-exclusive in NA and EU, PS2 port JP only)

I don't think the xbox controller is the best a controllet can be by any means, but the PS3 controller is god awful. I own PS3, 360, and Wii. For action games that are released on both HD consoles, I wouldnt almost hands-down pick it up on 360 unless there are some serious problems with the 360 version.

Also, I prefer higher frame rate, especially when the quality of picture is the same, or nearly the same.

But being an avid RPG player, I'll surely pick up a decent # of games on PS3.

And really, the PS3 controller is horribly designed. The shoulder buttons are horrendous for shooters (I quit 10 minutes into KZ2 all because of the horrible shoulder buttons), and the sticks are almost just as bad. It's like they didnt even think of the physics behind the shoulder buttons and joysticks. Yes, I know I can buy add-ons to fix these problems, but that's just ridiculous. Why should I have to pay for something that seems like an obvious design flaw?

I should also state that my disdain for the controller has nothing to do with what I feel about the system. LBP is one of my favorite games, and I'm really looking forward to Demon's Souls and Valkyria Chronicles once I pick  them up.

@vgaddict, the whole console exclusive thing is silly. I have friends who buy games on BOTH xbox and PC. PC is like an entirely different realm of gaming, you can't really compare it to console gaming, and I believe I've read news posts on this site claiming they don't really compete with one another. So, even if a game is available on PC and 360, it supposedly doesn't hurt 360 much. ALL of my friends that own multiple systems own far more 360 games tna PS3 or Wii (sometimes combined). I personally own 5 Wii games, 3 PS3 games, and about 35 360 games, and I don't regret it one bit.

Timed exclusives are another story, and a kind of interesting and bad move by MS. I'm mostly thinking directly of Star Ocean and Tales of Vesperia. If it pushed more consoles in Japan like MS seemed to be going for with those moves, it would have been awesome.

@r505Matt : It's only your taste. I prefer like a lot of people the PS3 controller, if only because it has a real D-PAD.

Half of the old games are unplayable on 360 due to the lack of a decent D-PAD... It's a major default for a controller. For me, it clearly gives the edge to the PS3 controller. The shoulder buttons you don't like are easily fixed, it costs 2 $ and clicks on top of standard buttons, so I've got classical triggers on shoulder buttons... The 360 D-PAD on the other hand, well it can't be fixed.

And yeah, PC/360 are not 'exclusives' since they're playable on 2 machines. I've got a PC, I don't care about 360 games I can buy on my PC. Saying 'it's a different world' doesn't mean anything. Games are games. Fact is I won't buy a 360 if half of its so called 'exclusives' are playable on my PC...

PS3 exclusives are in fact... exclusives. Which means you can't play them on anything except a PS3. That's why PS3 / PC is the perfect combo.

Agreed....and if the XBox controller is all you really like about the system...then get one for the PC and Bam...No reason to buy a whole console for a controller

Hmm, a 3 for effort.

So a survey conducted by Sony shows their users to be roughly 28 years old and falls into the "middle- to higher-income range". Convenient don't you think.What next, an Apple survey shows their users are the "cool kids"? or the typical MS consumer is an IT professional?

Here's a life tip for you. Don't believe what Sony says, or MS but I doubt you do anyway so you're half way there. They say things like that so silly people believe it and spread in the hope it makes their company look good and get more sales.

But if you think the common behaviour of PS3 owners on the internet reflects the age we're told they are supposed to be then you are mistaken, and flies in the face of that survey. Also if there is something so wrong with being the age you believe 360 owners to be I guess you don't want that age group buying a PS3 or it's exclusives? Well here's another shocker... they already buy a PS3. I know you want them lynched right?

Now you missed the point I was making (I'm not surprised if you believ that survey) which was that all we hear is people saying everyone wants a PS3 and it's exclusives and the notion that someone might not is alien to them.
Well it's true. Not everyone cares about the PS3 or it's exclusives (which it's owners don't judging their sales) and might be interested in another console and it's games.

Shocking I know but true. Go on sit down. Take a deep breath and have a cuppa. It'll relax you.

If a PS3 was £50 then I could be tempted to buy one but that's the difference between you and me...

I'm a gamer. I wouldn't as most of the PS3 games are on the 360 and I have zero interest in it's exclusives plus I don't need another console cluttering up my space. I've kept most of the machines I've owned going back to the 2600 (don't have that anymore) so don't need another just yet but I would never dismiss buying a PS3 just because it's a PS3. I would dismiss it because it has no games I need.