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This will get overturned..otherwise you can kiss handheld and console gaming goodbye. The console manufacturers make their money from licensing..if the system is totally open there is no need for licensing thus no profit for the console manufacturer. So far Nintendo is the only console in recent generations to actually make even a marginal profit off the consoles themselves within the first couple years of its launch. Without the current revenue path there can only be two options...no more consoles or at best no more subsidized hardware costs...which would mean drastically more expensive consoles, either of which would essentially kill the business as consumers are highly unlikely to spend $1000+ on a console...that may sound like an absurd amount but remember when the PS3 launched the parts breakdown determined it cost nearly $800 to build.



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piracy hurts gaming much more than homebrew helps(in fact,is hardly needed-) its small community.I know simply way too many people using r4 to play free games.Imagine if we all followed suit.Like some countries do.In those countries 90% of gamers play thanks to R4.Sales are in lines of few hundreths.If US once became like that, the end of gaming(out of amateur flash games) would be nigh.And i dont think homebrew compensates for that.I had hc on my wii.Erased it.Dont miss it.



I hope Nintendo is able to get this overturned asap. Piracy is bad for Nintendo. Homebrew is bad for Nintendo. Making the Wii play DVDs? Give me a damn break. That was NEVER what the Wii was intended for and you know it. It's just another way to pirate software under the weak banner of "independent content creation".



I'm sure that Nintendo is going to appeal this decision.



If the implications for this are potentially as broad as some people are suggesting wouldn't this be worse news for Sony and MS than Nintendo?

Nintendo has always been able to make money without loss leading and even though they would lose out on licensing fees they can still make a bundle from software. Sony and MS would have to change their console strategy entirely.



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hsrob said:
If the implications for this are potentially as broad as some people are suggesting wouldn't this be worse news for Sony and MS than Nintendo?

Nintendo has always been able to make money without loss leading and even though they would lose out on licensing fees they can still make a bundle from software. Sony and MS would have to change their console strategy entirely.

This is indeed true. The best-selling software on Nintendo's consoles are already published by Nintendo, so they wouldn't be affected harshly. However, Sony and Microsoft would lose tons of money without licensing fees from popular games like CoD, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Metal Gear Solid, etc.



Kasz216 said:

A) I agree.

B) However this applies for Sony and Microsoft too... If upheld it means licensing fees go bye bye... as does Loss leading platforms.

Which means we'll never see a PS3 again.  Well unless they wanna sell it for the 800-900 it cost at launch + shipping.

 

If this goes worldwide... or even most of europe.  Expect console generations to last... well generations.

Hah, yeah, that's what I thought immediately on reading the OP. It's a shot across the bow of entire business models. Nintendo isn't immune, either, since it would have a profound impact on their relationships with third parties.



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they illegally protect Ds and Wii from homebrew, for example it's my choice to modify my Wii to play Dvd's and videos/music off usb for example, but they have every right to attack piracy

so, it's program developers fault that they've released programs and devices to play games illegally, to the public

by the way, using programs to play roms/isos on Ds/Wii is not illegal, but to download games you do not own is illegal and i am against it, as Nintendo is

but the same happens all the time, people are downloading a ton of movies and music off the internet for free, same for PC games, almost every internet user is a pirate...

also, Sony was very smart this time with Ps3, at least Ps3 is safe from piracy

i hope piracy is not the reason that many hard-core Wii games fail

PSP is in a helpless situation.... : (



don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^

I don't do homebrew and i definitely don't pirate, but i agree with the ruling.

As soon as I go into a store and buy a product, it becomes MY property. It is no longer the property of the retailer nor the manufacturer, so they should have no authority trying to dictate what I can and cannot do with MY DS (as long as its legal).

Instead of wasting money bringing this to court or trying to appeal this ruling, they should spend the money on R&D to make the DS2 and Wii2 unpirateable.



Bravo! Now, forget about trying to stop piracy, because it will never happen. Instead, focus on delivering a product that is actually better than the pirated version.