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patapon on 19 November 2009
RolStoppable said:
patapon said:
RolStoppable said:
patapon said:

Yeah... maybe to someone who doesn't own a PSP and hasn't the slightest clue of it's library...

Yeah... coming from someone who doesn't own a DS and hasn't the slightest clue of its library...

Actually, I do own a DS. And I know alot about it's library. But I have to admit, my grandma knows more than I. She is the Ds' target demographic after all.

Good point, the DS is for adults and mature gamers while the PSP is more of a teenager gadget that lately is moving to even younger demographics as can be seen by the Hannah Montana bundle. Another good sign of evidence for that are the abysmal sales of the newest GTA game for the PSP. Clearly, most of the young males have abandoned Sony's handheld which is now nothing more than a kids toy.

I was PM'd not to take you seriously.

BTW, my grandma loves playing the IMAGINE series. As a matter of fact, it was what got her intrested in the DS to begin with!!! I believe that these types of games are getting the attention of ALL audiences and are in turn sucking SONY's PSP dry of all demographics.

 

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patapon on 19 November 2009
RolStoppable said:
patapon said:
RolStoppable said:

Good point, the DS is for adults and mature gamers while the PSP is more of a teenager gadget that lately is moving to even younger demographics as can be seen by the Hannah Montana bundle. Another good sign of evidence for that are the abysmal sales of the newest GTA game for the PSP. Clearly, most of the young males have abandoned Sony's handheld which is now nothing more than a kids toy.

I was PM'd not to take you seriously.

Was it Carl, darth, Kantor or psrock?

All of them

But seriously, I can't tell you that.



Onyxmeth on 19 November 2009
Soriku said:
Onyxmeth said:

The PSP relies far too much on Sony to stock the library, so when they decide to ignore it again, the third party support will dry up again also. Frankly it's a miracle they convinced developers to come back on board as it is. It's a valiant effort on their part, but I just don't see Sony being able to continue this level of support forever. 

Personally, I just came to notice that far too much of the library is full of stripped down console games. You've got the multitude of PS2 ports that function oddly without the second analog and the multitude of PS3 franchises that are stripped of features. In between that, you've got the gems like Patapon and Crush. There just are far too many of these console duds, and not enough truly original software to separate the PSP from it's bigger cousins.


I have to commend Sony on getting some third parties on board...but it doesn't seem like their games are selling well. Soul Calibur and GTA didn't do well from the more notable ones off the top of my head. Assassin's Creed doesn't seem like it'll sell that well either - it only had 14k preorders according to VGC. On the first party side, GT PSP, Motorstorm didn't do well. LBP PSP launched with no hype so I don't see that doing well either. Only JP third parties seem to have success on it and in Japan only. But then they have to make a compromise because in the West the titles end up not doing well. This is a problem for any series that sell more in the West (like KH:BBS...which should be ported to the Wii).

Well the problem on here is that with the download store, people will defend poor PSP sales until the end of time. Anything that isn't sold at retail could potentially be made up for in mystery DD sales, no matter how unlikely. I think a healthy combo of Sony showing third parties their PSP Go plans and Capcom's success with Monster Hunter made it possible to get some third parties on board again. Also, I'm fairly sure there's a large incentive from Sony for any developer that makes a game Sony promises to bundle with the PSP, which is in the hundreds now I think.



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darthdevidem01 on 19 November 2009
RolStoppable said:
patapon said:
RolStoppable said:

Was it Carl, darth, Kantor or psrock?

All of them

But seriously, I can't tell you that.

Okay, then I'll just have to ban all of them once I'll be promoted to a mod.

You'd ban me too rol?!!

 



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MANUELF on 19 November 2009

I have both and I'm FAR more interested on the DS library but the PSP one has some gems like Dissidia and LocoRoco



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jonop on 19 November 2009
Onyxmeth said:
Soriku said:
Onyxmeth said:

The PSP relies far too much on Sony to stock the library, so when they decide to ignore it again, the third party support will dry up again also. Frankly it's a miracle they convinced developers to come back on board as it is. It's a valiant effort on their part, but I just don't see Sony being able to continue this level of support forever. 

Personally, I just came to notice that far too much of the library is full of stripped down console games. You've got the multitude of PS2 ports that function oddly without the second analog and the multitude of PS3 franchises that are stripped of features. In between that, you've got the gems like Patapon and Crush. There just are far too many of these console duds, and not enough truly original software to separate the PSP from it's bigger cousins.


I have to commend Sony on getting some third parties on board...but it doesn't seem like their games are selling well. Soul Calibur and GTA didn't do well from the more notable ones off the top of my head. Assassin's Creed doesn't seem like it'll sell that well either - it only had 14k preorders according to VGC. On the first party side, GT PSP, Motorstorm didn't do well. LBP PSP launched with no hype so I don't see that doing well either. Only JP third parties seem to have success on it and in Japan only. But then they have to make a compromise because in the West the titles end up not doing well. This is a problem for any series that sell more in the West (like KH:BBS...which should be ported to the Wii).

Well the problem on here is that with the download store, people will defend poor PSP sales until the end of time. Anything that isn't sold at retail could potentially be made up for in mystery DD sales, no matter how unlikely. I think a healthy combo of Sony showing third parties their PSP Go plans and Capcom's success with Monster Hunter made it possible to get some third parties on board again. Also, I'm fairly sure there's a large incentive from Sony for any developer that makes a game Sony promises to bundle with the PSP, which is in the hundreds now I think.

I read somewhere ( I think it was gameindustry.biz ) earlier this year that sony had significantly lowered the price of development tools for the psp which might have been partly the reason it received more third party support this year.



Onyxmeth on 19 November 2009
jonop said:
Onyxmeth said:

Well the problem on here is that with the download store, people will defend poor PSP sales until the end of time. Anything that isn't sold at retail could potentially be made up for in mystery DD sales, no matter how unlikely. I think a healthy combo of Sony showing third parties their PSP Go plans and Capcom's success with Monster Hunter made it possible to get some third parties on board again. Also, I'm fairly sure there's a large incentive from Sony for any developer that makes a game Sony promises to bundle with the PSP, which is in the hundreds now I think.

I read somewhere ( I think it was gameindustry.biz ) earlier this year that sony had significantly lowered the price of development tools for the psp which might have been partly the reason it received more first party support this year.

Why would that affect first party studios? Don't they receive PSP development tools for free?



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jonop on 19 November 2009

opps that was meant to say third party.



Smeags on 19 November 2009

*Shrugs*

All I know is that Scribblenauts got me out of my DS funk. That game is awesome.

And then Bowser's Inside Story came out right after. And that was also awesome.

Now I'm looking forward to Spirit Tracks. It's looking to be awesome.

So yes, awesome.



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Onyxmeth on 19 November 2009
jonop said:
opps that was meant to say third party.

I don't know. Look at the resurgence of software. It's majority Japanese, and that lends itself to mean that Monster Hunter could be a huge factor. Notice how western developers haven't stepped on board yet? We've got Ubisoft and EA. They both got bundled game support out of it.

I'm not saying you're wrong here, but I can't imagine PSP tools being so damn expensive that it was a bigger roadblock than the inability to sell software well is. In fact, I think the only games it's affected positively are the PSP Minis, because of their lower costs and garage development mentality.



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