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hell no.

if yes, then you will see

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Dell > Mac
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no only indicator of quality is quality.



Nope.



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KungKras said:
If sales were an indicator of quality, Blizzard would rule the world. now they are just having games with massive legs :(

Subscription fees are sales. They are counted as sales on financial reports.

It's just the tracking sites that don't count them as sales.



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Not at all, for me a game can be quality regardless of what it sold, sales is a non-factor to me

For example, The Sims is an excellent game and it sold a lot
Suikoden II is the best game ever and it barely sold anything




Many of you are huge PS3 fans. You insist that because the PS3 has such a great library, and a great value, it will eventually outsell or at least keep pace with its main competition the Xbox 360.

You see the fallacy there? You imply that quality determines sales, absolutely, in that equation, but you are wrong. It's hypocrisy,.

I think a lot of you are seeing the question as black and white.

Sales are not an indicator of quality directly. I don't think anyone will imply that.

Quality is an opinion. There are no indicators of quality except random personal preference and comparisons to control games.

Like with consoles, consumers vote with their dollars, BUT sales are never a complete indicator of quality, they are but one of hundreds of factors.

Some might take offense because a lot of great PS3 games didn't sell as well as similar games on other consoles.

...guys, that's why you have to use the sales factor "relatively." You can't compare sales between consoles to help you determine quality. Like with real estate, your control number needs to be in the same neighborhood(on the same platforms), about the same quality, with the same marketing, and with the same hype.

If you compare two very similar games released at the same time, with the same hype and the same marketing, the in theory, sales could be a valid FACTOR(of many) when opinionating quality of quality.

If MW2 sucked, and didn't sell as well on PC, then in that instance, sales could be a factor in determining quality.

Or do MW2's sales on PC mean nothing one way or another?

Ask yourself this. Sometimes...and only sometimes, in rare instances.....do certain games sell less because they suck, or sell more because they're great?

If quality does affect sales, then by inference, sales effect quality, and I'm done.

Sales aren't an absolute indicator, but they can be a great tool, we use them all the time, ESPECIALLY in post mortem or theoretical discussions.


What say you?



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It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

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kingofwale said:
hell no.

if yes, then you will see

Transformers > Schindler's List

Yes, transformers was better, it was based on the comics that virtually everybody loved as a kid. It was a more lighthearted film, and the computer animation was amazing. Schindlers list was a really good movie too, but it had a more heavy stroy line, and was something you couldn't bring the whole family to. 

Toyota Corolla > ferrari california

I ask you, which one is more reliable? I would say the Corolla tops the Ferrari on the basis that the average family can drive it and not worry about it breaking down or sucking up too much gas. Quality does not = quantity my friend. and the Ferrari offers quantity. 

Dell > Mac

Dell is actually a much better computer as of late, it is more reliable, more user friendly, and cheaper. So naturally people will choose it over the overpriced mac. 
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See, your point fails on so many levels, you just assume quality is automatically pegged on price with the last two entries, and with the first one, you just assume that a movie that is making a point is better quality that one with better visuals. You sir, fail. 

try comparing two items in the same category and league, then we can talk.



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IllegalPaladin said:
Didn't Lair sell a million?

Lair was awesome lol!



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No.. sales is an indicator of hype







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