Scoobes said: Rainbird said: Hmm... well, as long as they know what whent wrong, then there is something to work with. But I agree, the software has been lacking, though Nintendo is not the only ones to blame. A greater effort from 3rd parties could have made the problem smaller. The rest as they say, is history I don't think Nintendo are completely blameless. By the sound of things they need to communicate better with 3rd parties to help them understand the Wii. It's been 3 yrs and 3rd parties are mostly failing to bring out anything inspiring to the console. Its like they need someone to give them a push in the right direction and say, "Hey, look, you can do this and you can be sucessful!". Nintendo can only do so much with 1st party material. Most people are confident that the next Zelda is going to be something special but they need games to fill in the gap and its not happening with only 1st-party games. I do find it odd though that they say they've failed... high standards.

I agree, I was merely pointing out that it wasn't all Nintendo's fault. But as you said, then 3rd parties don't get the audience and are not trying what should be tried, then Nintendo should have stepped in to try make the 3rd parties understand better.

And you know why?

Because New Super Mario Bros Wii cant generate enough hype to be ‘the next thing.’

It aint a AAA game in the head of the general public! Because it dont have any kind of innovative motion control!!!!

People see Wii Sports and buy the wii.

And then they have to play New Super mario Bros?

In 2d?

Without motion controls?????

of course you gonna lose your precious momentum!

"Look how im playing tennis! And that´s just a tease! In the future, we will se REGULAR games that you will play like that!"

But the future never came!!!!

Only shovelware, stupid waggling and 2D games dressed as new games!

And it was plain obvious, all this time.

Now it all came to this: WE FAILED

I'd also like to know how much of this is interpreted right from the original language. Always have a lot lost in translation.

And once again can't stress enough to keep this in context. It is about lowering Wii sales expectation and not being able to sustain heightened sales due to inconsistent releases of strong titles: not a failure of the wii itself, failure of quality of wii titles, or any other inference you might have.

funny how you "blame" NSMB (which is not even out), while the recent major releases are Wii Sports Resort and Wii Fit Plus

Wii failed, ironic

I couldn't really care less if there is shovelware. The important thing is that there are a high quantity of quality games from nintendo and third parties to go along with it, and in 2009 and the second half of 2008, that hasn't really been the case, particularly from nintendo. There have been more good third parties lately (Muramasa, LKS, Mad World, etc), but those don't usually sell Wiis. Hopefully they start getting it going in 2010 again and release some more quality first party titles.

*barrows Khuutra avatar*

What does being 2D have to do with anything?

On top of that what does "shovelware" have to do with what Iwata said?

What does any of that have to do with what he said? *sigh*

Just learn to read and you will understand.

It's good that they realize something is wrong so they can start working on a solution, instead of pretending everything is well. I believe 2010 will be an extremely good year ^^

I don't know what to say.