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KungKras said:
^It was Sony that tried to screw Nintendo over, not the other way around.

You are sooo wrong.

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aragod said:
KungKras said:
^It was Sony that tried to screw Nintendo over, not the other way around.

You are sooo wrong.

Watch the whole series > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4kDwWwmeso&feature=PlayList&p=61DA26FB17D829D0&index=0

Sony tried to steal Mario, Zelda, and the rest of the Nintendo IPs. If that isn't Sony trying to screw Nintendo, I don't know what it is. Both of them screwed each other over though.




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actually it was nintendo that didnt want to move to cd's and backed out when sony had the ps1 almost developed. sony was ready to go because after developing the sound chip for the snes they had some sort of partnership but nintendo went with phillips instead which sony tried to sue for the breach of contract, yes nintendo broke the contract. then sony tried to bury the project but Norio Ohga let katarugi finish the project when they were starting to decline.

as for the quality seal was there it was nice to know the games didnt suck, im just saying the wii has seen more shovelware than any console ever has which sucks. i have a wii and dust it off every now and then but rarely.



aragod said:
KungKras said:
^It was Sony that tried to screw Nintendo over, not the other way around.

You are sooo wrong.

Watch the whole series > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4kDwWwmeso&feature=PlayList&p=61DA26FB17D829D0&index=0

already seen.

that documantary is very one-sided. Sony did many thingsd to screw both Nintendo and Sega over, like how the CD add on deals let them look at the Super Nintendo and MegaDrive blueprints. Also, like Nordlead said, they tried to lure the rights to Nintendo IPs off of Nintnedo.

Nintendo announcing the deal with Phillips was a well-deserved retribution.



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and check it out an original protoype
http://nintendo.joystiq.com/2007/06/07/original-nintendo-sony-playstation-prototype-found/

and no sony was never interested in nintendos ips they actually didnt like videogames because it was inferior technology and the higher CEO's didnt like it



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almcchesney said:
actually it was nintendo that didnt want to move to cd's and backed out when sony had the ps1 almost developed. sony was ready to go because after developing the sound chip for the snes they had some sort of partnership but nintendo went with phillips instead which sony tried to sue for the breach of contract, yes nintendo broke the contract. then sony tried to bury the project but Norio Ohga let katarugi finish the project when they were starting to decline.

as for the quality seal was there it was nice to know the games didnt suck, im just saying the wii has seen more shovelware than any console ever has which sucks. i have a wii and dust it off every now and then but rarely.

Nintendo did want to move to CD's and was trying ever since the Famicon days with the disc system. However, within the contract with Sony, Sony claimed 100% rights to every IP that Nintendo put on the CD system (SNES-CD). This is why Nintendo went to phillips for the CD based system but that flopped horribly and they abandonded that before release. Sony then came out with the Playstation, and Nintendo tried to counter with the N64. The N64 was the product of failed atttempts at building a disc based system and they had to put something out the door.

Sony did almost drop the playstation project, but that doesn't counter the fact that Sony was trying to steal Nintendo's hard work.

EDIT: as much as I don't like Wiki, you can check it out on the Playstation page for information about how Sony wanted to steal the IPs.




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^The Nintnedo games on GC were still inferior to the games now released on Wii. (except Wind Waker)



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KylieDog said:

 

The GC had better third party support to steal sales, not to mention a smaller userbase (which doesn't always mean more sales...but it sure does help)..

Either way, the complaint is that "Nintendo doesn't make good games that sell millions" and Nintendo has made great games that sold just as well if not better so just as many people get to enjoy them. It is in no way Nintendo's fault that 3rd party publishers haven't put out good titles on the Wii. If anything Nintendo has done more for 3rd parties on Wii and 3rd party publishers should be more willing now than the GC era to put out a quality title.




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yea i know ive read the wiki and have seen a direct contradiction to the news read on many other sites it said nintendo sued sony but sony sued nintendo and sony didnt want 100% control they wanted royalties on the format, because they wanted to be reimbursed for the cd's because cd was their ip and nintendo didnt want to pay the royalty, it gave them no control over the actual ip of nintendo



Just for the record, a list of hardcore NGC titles deved or published by nintendo:

Starfox Adventures
Metriod Prime
Metriod Prime 2: Echoes
Eternal Darkness
F-Zero GX
Super Mario Sunshine
LOZ: Windwaker
Baten Kaitos: Origins
Battalion Wars
Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Chibi-Robo
Geist
LOZ: Four Swrds
LOZ: Ocarina of Time Master Quest
LOZ: Twilight Princess
Odama
Paper Mario: Thousand year door
Pikmin
Pikmin 2
Star Fox Assualt
Super Smash Bros Melee
Wario World

Sure not all are great games, but these are the opposite of casual games and also paint the picture of a pretty balanced and quality library.

As for the OP... personally I enjoy the way nintendo focuses so well on the nuts and bolts of game design and theory. No other company touches their competency in high level game design and theory. Its why they are such innovators of software and by extension hardware innovators.

However, this does come at a price. Nintendo is not good at adopting new technologies like Online Play and Voice chat which MS and Sony spoiled us with. They are also not really interested in fun via violence which seems to be the modern definition of hardcore.

Also, my fav genres are platforming, action adventrues, and puzzle games... all which nintendo does better than anyone else. Well...that was until I got my grubby hands on Uncharted 2 which is the greatest Action adventure game since the last Zelda or Okami.



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