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slowmo said:
eggs2see said:

New user, long time reader.  I stopped reading after page 9 as i wanted to share this with anyone still reading.

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=Wii®1=All&cons2=PS3®2=All&cons3=X360®3=All&weeks=156

What this chart is showing you is the sales of each console from their respective release dates, so this is a more true indication of how consoles are actually fairing.


No thats what Sony fanboys pull out whenever they get told they're still in last place.  It's been brought up for 3 years, there has been hundreds of threads dedicated to it and still it's spinning figures to make a given situation to appear different.  There is no truth in that chart, its just denial of the current situation which is what actually matters.  The only time that chart would have any bearing is if the price cuts, economy and a hundred other factors that influence sales had been the same across the timescale the chart covered, which they aren't.

Don't mean to blast you on your first post but a long time reader should really know better than posting that link imo.

Call me a skeptic, but newbies posting links draws the hairy eyeballs!



"...You can't kill ideas with a sword, and you can't sink belief structures with a broadside. You defeat them by making them change..."

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slowmo said:
eggs2see said:

New user, long time reader.  I stopped reading after page 9 as i wanted to share this with anyone still reading.

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=Wii®1=All&cons2=PS3®2=All&cons3=X360®3=All&weeks=156

What this chart is showing you is the sales of each console from their respective release dates, so this is a more true indication of how consoles are actually fairing.


No thats what Sony fanboys pull out whenever they get told they're still in last place.  It's been brought up for 3 years, there has been hundreds of threads dedicated to it and still it's spinning figures to make a given situation to appear different.  There is no truth in that chart, its just denial of the current situation which is what actually matters.  The only time that chart would have any bearing is if the price cuts, economy and a hundred other factors that influence sales had been the same across the timescale the chart covered, which they aren't.

Don't mean to blast you on your first post but a long time reader should really know better than posting that link imo.

It shows that at the same point in the consoles lifetime, the PS3 is ahead by over 3 million sales. It isn't "spinning" anything.

It's not exactly lying...

There is another one though, kinda like the alligned launches one. If you count all PS360 consoles sold since PS3 launched, 360 is leading. (Last time i checked it was, anyway...)



                            

Carl2291 said:
slowmo said:
eggs2see said:

New user, long time reader.  I stopped reading after page 9 as i wanted to share this with anyone still reading.

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=Wii®1=All&cons2=PS3®2=All&cons3=X360®3=All&weeks=156

What this chart is showing you is the sales of each console from their respective release dates, so this is a more true indication of how consoles are actually fairing.


No thats what Sony fanboys pull out whenever they get told they're still in last place.  It's been brought up for 3 years, there has been hundreds of threads dedicated to it and still it's spinning figures to make a given situation to appear different.  There is no truth in that chart, its just denial of the current situation which is what actually matters.  The only time that chart would have any bearing is if the price cuts, economy and a hundred other factors that influence sales had been the same across the timescale the chart covered, which they aren't.

Don't mean to blast you on your first post but a long time reader should really know better than posting that link imo.

It shows that at the same point in the consoles lifetime, the PS3 is ahead by over 3 million sales. It isn't "spinning" anything.

It's not exactly lying...

There is another one though, kinda like the alligned launches one. If you count all PS360 consoles sold since PS3 launched, 360 is leading. (Last time i checked it was, anyway...)

It's spin and I'm not having this discussion with you if you cannot understand why thats the case.  Perhaps saying there is no truth is harsh but thats my belief when people have to manipulate a graph to get a result they want.  Spinning is not lying by the way which is maybe why you didn't understand the concept of my post.

I personally agree with heruamon and suspect a rat in a "newbie" posting such a link.  There is no point debating the link, it's been done to death on here and never ends well.  Finally the discussion is about LTD figures which means that link isn't even relevant to the discussion.



heruamon said:
As expected...this thread is going therm-nuclear...so predictable...lol!

I know, I just don't get it.  I mean MS have a good lead, may well keep 2nd place, etc. but even if it was closer what's he going to say?  "Well, we reckon PS3's bound to overtake us eventually, but hey, we're cool."  Hardly.  Are Sony going to suddenly go "Ah, we blew our initial launch and we might never catch 360, or maybe it'll be close."  Course not.  Sony will say we're going to overtake MS eventually.  MS will say no you're not.

Nintendo I guess just party on.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

Umm well i gues we will have to see but i would take what microsfot said with a grain of salt.



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gurglesletch said:
Umm well i gues we will have to see but i would take what microsfot said with a grain of salt.

Here you go



DirtyP2002 said:
txrattlesnake said:
Slimebeast said:
DirtyP2002 said:
I can't believe people really think Nintendo cut the price, because of the PS3.Nintendo is in is own league.

Yeah. The Wii sales went in a slump long before even the rumors of a Slim and pricecut started to appear.

 

 

     That's true, but a cheaper PS3 would deepen that slump especially in Japan where at its old price PS3 had already demonstrated it could give Wii a run for its money, so they had to cut the price.


you fail on so many levels, it is just hard to read this.

Nintendo cut the price, because demand slowed down after 3 (!!!) years at the same price. The price-cut was planned a long time ago, way before the PS3 slim happened. Nintendo is now again in perfect position for this holiday season.

PS3 did NO damage to the wii. Wii sales declined 3.28 % the week after sonys price-cut. That is so low, that easily fits in this error-margin. Do you really think Big N was worried about anything?

 

Why did the demand slow?  Because Nintendo's offerings weren't meeting the desires of most gamers.  Was there a system that was offering more to gamers during that time period?  Well, if you go back to February through the first of April, you'll see that for twelve straight weeks the PS3 outsold the Wii in Japan.

It took Monster Hunter 3 and Wii Sports Resort to bring Wii sales back up to par.  And those had started to decline again prior to the launch of PS3 Slim.  The PS3 Slim selling 550,000 in its first week was something that I suspect Nintendo felt that they had to do something about, so in my opinion that is why they dropped the price.  If they hadn't dropped the price the PS3 Slim would still be coming out on top of the Wii in worldwide sales up to the latest week, and even with the price cut and Wii Fit + in Japan, the Wii was still beaten in Japan two  weeks ago and barely managed to eek out a victory over the PS3 there last week.

 

 



Nsanity said:
txrattlesnake said:
^^^We waited and guess what Sony's back on top and Microsoft is back on the bottom.

Even with these "360 Slim + Natal + Halo Reach + Gears of War 3", the Japanese game community wouldn't pick 360 over PS3 and that fact will always keep the Playstation brand alive.

There have been 12 million + PSPs sold in Japan so far, PS3 will sell at least 10 million units in Japan and do much better worldwide than PSP when all is said and done.

TOP? Sorry..i can't take this post seriously and your sig is a little misleading

 

 

      Let's look at the numbers:  The PSP has sold 17.58 million units in Americas while PS3 has sold 9.76 million units.  The  PS3 will surpass the PSP current number over the next couple of years.  The PSP has sold 21.53 million units in Others while the PS3 has sold  11.80 million units there.  PS3 will surpass the PSP's current number in Others eventually.  In Japan, the PSP has sold 12.88 million units while the PS3 has sold  3.71 million units there.  The PS3 may never surpass 12.88 million Japan is the land of handhelds.  However, it will certainly pass 10 million as a result of FFXIII, FFVXIII, FFXIV, and other games that will come to PS3 as a result of those titles and receive comparable support from Japanese developers to the support that PSP has had to bring it to 12.88 million.  So, the PS3 will easily pass 10 million in Japan and be the best selling second Japanese console in a gen ever (not counting handhelds).

 

 



Reasonable said:
heruamon said:
As expected...this thread is going therm-nuclear...so predictable...lol!

I know, I just don't get it.  I mean MS have a good lead, may well keep 2nd place, etc. but even if it was closer what's he going to say?  "Well, we reckon PS3's bound to overtake us eventually, but hey, we're cool."  Hardly.  Are Sony going to suddenly go "Ah, we blew our initial launch and we might never catch 360, or maybe it'll be close."  Course not.  Sony will say we're going to overtake MS eventually.  MS will say no you're not.

Nintendo I guess just party on.

Makes for good press, and gets the fans worked up!



"...You can't kill ideas with a sword, and you can't sink belief structures with a broadside. You defeat them by making them change..."

- From By Schism Rent Asunder

slowmo said:
Carl2291 said:
slowmo said:
eggs2see said:

New user, long time reader.  I stopped reading after page 9 as i wanted to share this with anyone still reading.

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=Wii®1=All&cons2=PS3®2=All&cons3=X360®3=All&weeks=156

What this chart is showing you is the sales of each console from their respective release dates, so this is a more true indication of how consoles are actually fairing.


No thats what Sony fanboys pull out whenever they get told they're still in last place.  It's been brought up for 3 years, there has been hundreds of threads dedicated to it and still it's spinning figures to make a given situation to appear different.  There is no truth in that chart, its just denial of the current situation which is what actually matters.  The only time that chart would have any bearing is if the price cuts, economy and a hundred other factors that influence sales had been the same across the timescale the chart covered, which they aren't.

Don't mean to blast you on your first post but a long time reader should really know better than posting that link imo.

It shows that at the same point in the consoles lifetime, the PS3 is ahead by over 3 million sales. It isn't "spinning" anything.

It's not exactly lying...

There is another one though, kinda like the alligned launches one. If you count all PS360 consoles sold since PS3 launched, 360 is leading. (Last time i checked it was, anyway...)

It's spin and I'm not having this discussion with you if you cannot understand why thats the case.  Perhaps saying there is no truth is harsh but thats my belief when people have to manipulate a graph to get a result they want.  Spinning is not lying by the way which is maybe why you didn't understand the concept of my post.

I personally agree with heruamon and suspect a rat in a "newbie" posting such a link.  There is no point debating the link, it's been done to death on here and never ends well.  Finally the discussion is about LTD figures which means that link isn't even relevant to the discussion.

Uhh, geez you have your knickers in a knot now don't you? I didn't manipulate any charts, nor am i "spinning" anything.  Simply goto "Charts", then "Hardware from launch". VGChartz have it there for the world to see. So please, leave your abusive comments to yourself, as i stated i was simply adding it to the discussion. Just because you and many other long term readers have seen the chart a million times doesnt mean that all the new users who join here every day have.