nice reiview i was going to get it anyways even if reviews sucked cause i enjoyed the demo and  hopefully im gonna  pickup the microsoft wheel with it.

I don't see how they knock off so much for only having 8 cars  either.  Useually when you get more than 10 people into a room trying to race there  there is at least one  jackass who has no intention on racing and instead cause problems for others.  16 people just increases this to the umpteenth level.

Great review and I can't wait till I pick up this game.  I only wish I had the cash to buy a kickass setup like that.

They didn't. They were being honest. They are known for no BS reviewing. GT5P scored okish for physics etc from them, but these guys play ALL sims day in day out, meaning PC sims to like Rfactor. So they know their stuff. Also they test in the best conditions for each game. They have NEVER reviewed a racing game on a gamepad EVER. There was no pop at GT5. What they are saying is GT5 has alot to do to beat FM3. ALOT. GT5P was lacking in the sim department to them and considering FM3 has the best score they have ever had including PC sims, they had every right to say GT5 has a mountain to climb not just a molehill.

@kowenicki,

perhaps it is because the thread is NOT about Turn10 asshole's comments. And since no one has ever claimed something like "FM3 sucks", no one is surprised by the praising made in another review.

In a way, it is too bad because : no Sony fans = no discussion = no posts = "dead" thread

I'm leaving while it is still "living".

I'm surprised Sony fans haven't came in to downplay Forza in name of GT yet, but then again, these reviewers are the best of the best in the racingsim genre.

Go figure! October 27th can't come soon enough..

@waron, racepro should score highly in sim dept, the racing feel is excellent im currently waiting 4 my copy to arrive, tried it at friends house was amazing game. sadly most ppl will hate it as its to niche for massmarket.

Wow so F3 is pretty much the most realistic, best racing sim out there today...

Can't wait to play it!

That's another great score for Forza Ms 3.

their forza set up was awesome but that TV..... >____>

As someone has already mentioned. This is really the only review that matters for sim racing games. They are the ONLY reviewer who will test every racing game from start to finish with full sim settings and all the right products ( wheels etc. ). In essence these guys represent all us sim racers out there. Their review makes normal reviewers for this type of game seem silly. The scores are fantastic. The setup is brilliant, and they talk on the things that matter. After all a game with 70 from these guys is considered very good. Kinda like an 85 from IGN. This 89 from FM3 ( The highest they have ever given ) is like a 99. Awesome.