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finchi100 on 08 October 2009

omg you fanboys cant you understand the counsels are cheap the only reason i have one is beccause i cant affored the ALMIGHTY P.C.
And in my opinoin xbox is a more fun system then the ps3.
But the ps3 is way cheaper in the end.



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Ronster316 on 08 October 2009
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
Ronster316 said:
Come on, time to face facts.................. Sony just played their last trump card (ps3 slim) and all the more worryingly for sony is that they were forced in to launching the slim in order to stay in the game.
(I suspect it was launched earlier than planned too which obviously doesn't help their situation)

Sales have been good for sony lately thanks to the slim (or "last throw of the dice" as i like to call it) but Microsoft still have plenty left in the tank in terms of price drops and appealing bundles ect.

3rd place is beckoning for sony......... bottom line____________________

dude you bias is stupid! especially the part about microsoft having more left in the tank! the last price drop hardly raised 360 sales. price isnt a factor for 360 anymore. the only increases 360 is gonna see now are huge game releases.


Whats so stupid about it? (people who know me here know that i openly despise sony for various reasons) theres no doubt in my mind that sony launched the slim early due to the batterings that they were taking from Microsoft prior to its release.

Sure, there was a small price cut for the 360, but that was simply done to steal a "little" bit of thunder from the slim.

I stand by what i say........... the slim was sony's "last throw of the dice" for this gen.

Microsoft will beat them, and beat them good and proper.



Alby_da_Wolf on 08 October 2009
Carl2291 said:
ph4nt said:
Chairman-Mao said:
Umm okay I guess we all have our own opinions. You do realize the PS3 has outsold the 360 by over 800,000 in the past 5 weeks. What makes you think PS3 can't catch the 360. The PS3 will easily bowl over the 360 this holiday and into 2010 until MS drops the arcade and elite to $149 and $249 respectively.

All you mentioned is NATAL which may or may not succeed, Halo reach which will sell well but will it move any hardware?, and a fairly inevitable price drop which won't be until sometime in 2010.

PS3 has Gran Turismo 5 which will move consoles and other great games like Uncharted 2, God of War 3, MAG, etc (go to ign for a full list) which won't individually move consoles but will make the PS3 look better when people are deciding on what console to buy and should give it the edge. And since you mentioned motion controls, Sony's wand thing will be out sometime.

My prediction - 360's lead over PS3 will only be 4-5 million by end of 2010 and PS3 will be ahead by end of 2011.

It outsold the 360 by 800,000 the past 5 weeks, an average of 160k / week, impressive.

It outsold the 360 by 80k last week, half the average, still not too bad, but PS3 is still declining.

I'd say it will level off at 50k-60k lead per week, equalling a 240k-300k lead per month. It would still take several years to catch up at this rate.

Problem with averages is they dont take into account Christmas, or big games released.

In reality, it could only be 3 years, maybe 2.

This. Or to better say it, Xmas often greatly influences average. Xmas sales are normally amplified for every console, and so are weekly gaps amongst them too. For example here

We can see that XB360 built most of the gap it accumulated from the beginning of September 2008 until PS3 Slim and cut in the period between Black Friday and Xmas. OTOH, Wii 's Xmas season contributed a lot, but the gap was built also by a strong lead also during other periods. But undeniably Xmas season gaps are amplified, whichever is first and last.

 

 



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Ssliasil on 08 October 2009

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=88574&page=1

that's all i have to say about that.



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letsdance on 08 October 2009

The difference is almost back to what it was when the Ps3 launched... The ps3 has sold faster than the 360.... until the green line goes above the redline there is always a chance of Ps3 catching up.



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Carl on 08 October 2009
Ronster316 said:
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
Ronster316 said:
Come on, time to face facts.................. Sony just played their last trump card (ps3 slim) and all the more worryingly for sony is that they were forced in to launching the slim in order to stay in the game.
(I suspect it was launched earlier than planned too which obviously doesn't help their situation)

Sales have been good for sony lately thanks to the slim (or "last throw of the dice" as i like to call it) but Microsoft still have plenty left in the tank in terms of price drops and appealing bundles ect.

3rd place is beckoning for sony......... bottom line____________________

dude you bias is stupid! especially the part about microsoft having more left in the tank! the last price drop hardly raised 360 sales. price isnt a factor for 360 anymore. the only increases 360 is gonna see now are huge game releases.


Whats so stupid about it? (people who know me here know that i openly despise sony for various reasons) theres no doubt in my mind that sony launched the slim early due to the batterings that they were taking from Microsoft prior to its release.

Sure, there was a small price cut for the 360, but that was simply done to steal a "little" bit of thunder from the slim.

I stand by what i say........... the slim was sony's "last throw of the dice" for this gen.

Microsoft will beat them, and beat them good and proper.

What you are essentially saying is that Sony can't drop the price of the PS3 any lower, but MS can drop the 360 lower.

And that GT5 and GoW3 won't shift hardware, but 360 still has games that will with bundles.

That is what's stupid about it.



                            

Steroid on 08 October 2009

How will the PS3 beat the 360? Simple it'll be on the market longer.



leo-j on 08 October 2009
ph4nt said:
Chairman-Mao said:
Umm okay I guess we all have our own opinions. You do realize the PS3 has outsold the 360 by over 800,000 in the past 5 weeks. What makes you think PS3 can't catch the 360. The PS3 will easily bowl over the 360 this holiday and into 2010 until MS drops the arcade and elite to $149 and $249 respectively.

All you mentioned is NATAL which may or may not succeed, Halo reach which will sell well but will it move any hardware?, and a fairly inevitable price drop which won't be until sometime in 2010.

PS3 has Gran Turismo 5 which will move consoles and other great games like Uncharted 2, God of War 3, MAG, etc (go to ign for a full list) which won't individually move consoles but will make the PS3 look better when people are deciding on what console to buy and should give it the edge. And since you mentioned motion controls, Sony's wand thing will be out sometime.

My prediction - 360's lead over PS3 will only be 4-5 million by end of 2010 and PS3 will be ahead by end of 2011.

It outsold the 360 by 800,000 the past 5 weeks, an average of 160k / week, impressive.

It outsold the 360 by 80k last week, half the average, still not too bad, but PS3 is still declining.

I'd say it will level off at 50k-60k lead per week, equalling a 240k-300k lead per month. It would still take several years to catch up at this rate.

I thought the PS3 went up from 234K to 237K this week?



 

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GameAnalyser on 08 October 2009

Sheer fanboyism...these threads need to be discontinued. The PS3 is a great console by all means and infact stands a great chance to beat the 360.



Ronster316 on 08 October 2009
Carl2291 said:
Ronster316 said:
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
Ronster316 said:
Come on, time to face facts.................. Sony just played their last trump card (ps3 slim) and all the more worryingly for sony is that they were forced in to launching the slim in order to stay in the game.
(I suspect it was launched earlier than planned too which obviously doesn't help their situation)

Sales have been good for sony lately thanks to the slim (or "last throw of the dice" as i like to call it) but Microsoft still have plenty left in the tank in terms of price drops and appealing bundles ect.

3rd place is beckoning for sony......... bottom line____________________

dude you bias is stupid! especially the part about microsoft having more left in the tank! the last price drop hardly raised 360 sales. price isnt a factor for 360 anymore. the only increases 360 is gonna see now are huge game releases.


Whats so stupid about it? (people who know me here know that i openly despise sony for various reasons) theres no doubt in my mind that sony launched the slim early due to the batterings that they were taking from Microsoft prior to its release.

Sure, there was a small price cut for the 360, but that was simply done to steal a "little" bit of thunder from the slim.

I stand by what i say........... the slim was sony's "last throw of the dice" for this gen.

Microsoft will beat them, and beat them good and proper.

What you are essentially saying is that Sony can't drop the price of the PS3 any lower, but MS can drop the 360 lower.

And that GT5 and GoW3 won't shift hardware, but 360 still has games that will with bundles.

That is what's stupid about it.


Sony dropping the price again anytime soon would be nothing short of suicide, Microsoft on the other hand have tonnes of room for cuts and bundles.

God of War 3 will sell consoles? Thats news to me Carl..................

GT5 yes.......... but apart from a small bump GOW 3 no.

And next year theres the small matter of a TRUE sequel to Halo 3. (you know it and i know it will sell multi millions)

And lets not forget that EPIC are practically in bed with Microsoft these days so its only a matter of time before Gears of War 3 is announced.

As for the rest of Sonys games........... all they have that can sell high apart from GT 5 is FF XIII, (now a multiplat game) the rest of the games like MAG, Heavy Rain, Ratchet and lets say for the sake of it resistance 3 can easily be matched by microsoft with games like Alan Wake, Crackdown 2 & Splinter cell: conviction.

Sorry to say it pal, but maybe its time some sony fans realised that they have finally more than met their match.