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Bobbuffalo said:
Nintendo is an entertainment company that focuses in videogames. They do care about gaming because it feeds them

Sony and MS are just gadget factories. Great gadgets but only that.

That's the truth. Deal with it.

My grandmom would completely agree.



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"Nintendo completely ignores what gamers want for ten years"

What did Nintendo ignore them about? Copying what the other people were doing?



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Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

when i find a game i like on nintendos platforms i will agree



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Bobbuffalo said:
Nintendo is an entertainment company that focuses in videogames. They do care about gaming because it feeds them

Sony and MS are just gadget factories. Great gadgets but only that.

That's the truth. Deal with it.

Microsoft is definitely not a gadget factory. 90% of their business (made up figure) is in software, particularly Windows. They clearly do value gaming, though, because they actually care about getting games for the 360.

Sony is a hardware company, and they have been for decades. But it is most definitely a gaming company. It's had consoles for 15 years, has several IPs and many development studios, and gaming has been a large part of the company pretty much since SCE was created. Sony is as much a gaming company as Nintendo, even if it is not exclusively making games.



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@OP

Sorry but I couldn't read past the first paragraph. If the rest of it is full of nonsense like:

"Nintendo created the Wii as a result of the gaming industry shrinking"

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND? Your telling me that during the PS1/PS2 era gaming shrunk!? Look, I'm a Nintendo fanboy, but it was Sony that made gaming cool and expanded it beyond anything it was before with the PS1. Then they broke all records with the PS2.

"...by only catering to the 18-35 year old male demographic."

Again just plainly short sighted. Are you telling me there's a lack of under 18 gamers? That's just crazy. And OF course there'll be less over 35ers than 18-35 - Older people are mostly techno-phobiacs. My mom can't even renew our antivirus software.

So the points are WEAK.

What Nintendo has done is they've expanded gaming among new demographics and even further than ever before. I'm not going to take anything away from them, they're my favourites.

But seriously, articles like this make us Nintendo gamers look pathetic.

*cooling down*



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Kantor said:
RolStoppable said:
I agree with the point that Sony and especially Microsoft don't really care if gaming dies, because they could just move on to something else. Their strategies in the past few years revolved mainly about getting as much revenue as possible from existing users and they didn't seem to be interested in creating new customers, at least not when it comes to gaming itself (they tried to get people to buy their systems due to other stuff like Blu-ray and Netflix).

Of course now that their direction turned out to be majorly flawed (both lost billions), they are trying to do something different, although it doesn't really seem as if they like doing that. It's more a case of "we just have to".

Sony, particularly, has benefitted a lot from gaming. Not nowadays, but back at the PS2's peak, the gaming division made up the majority of the the company's profits. No, they wouldn't go under if SCE and gaming failed, but the article is acting like they really don't care at all, and if the gaming industry crashed, they would shrug, start whistling and move on. It wouldn't work like that.

Microsoft, to a certain extent, might behave like that, since their original aim was to thwart SCE. A gaming crash would thwart SCE. Unfortunately, if would also destroy PC gaming, which Microsoft joined to protect (in a strange, twisted way). Doh.

yes it would be a very sad day if the gaming industry crashed. You would have to feel sorry for Nintendo the most because that is all they got. Sony and M$ will bbe hurt for a little, but they'll shrug it off later and forget about it. Damn them.



NINTENDO

nintendo forever . . .

This post has a whole lot of truth. I still like to game on the 360 and PS3 though as i've matured. Sony and Microsoft have remained relevant because they've transferred devs whom specialize in PC and new gaming elements for mature crowds. Sony use gaming for ends outside of the gaming realm, but what can we do about that?



dorbin2009 said:
So lets get this straight.

Nintendo completely ignores what gamers want for ten years, then releases a motion control stick and all of a sudden they are the true mecca of gaming? Or did you forget every system since the SNES flopping on it's face? I'm sorry, but I find it incredibly ironic that for two generations, the company basically reduced itself to a fan service machine while the other two companies basically carried gaming on their back to the audience that now appreciates and adores the pasttime, and now because the Wii has sold so well, we can forget the last ten years.

Whilst I agree with nearly all of your post, and in fact, a lot of this paragraph, especially in the GameCube era... Goldeneye says hello



"ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND? Your telling me that during the PS1/PS2 era gaming shrunk!? Look, I'm a Nintendo fanboy, but it was Sony that made gaming cool and expanded it beyond anything it was before with the PS1. Then they broke all records with the PS2."

Nintendo tracked sales in markets (they did this for several presentations before they first showed the Wiimote), and it showed that the gaming public was shrinking despite the PS2 selling well.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

LordTheNightKnight said:
"ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND? Your telling me that during the PS1/PS2 era gaming shrunk!? Look, I'm a Nintendo fanboy, but it was Sony that made gaming cool and expanded it beyond anything it was before with the PS1. Then they broke all records with the PS2."

Nintendo tracked sales in markets (they did this for several presentations before they first showed the Wiimote), and it showed that the gaming public was shrinking despite the PS2 selling well.

The SNES gen had some 80 million consoles sold.

The PS1 gen had 150 million

The PS2 gen had 195 million

How is that shrinking?



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