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Carl on 06 October 2009
Gnac said:
Carl2291 said:
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Carl2291 said:
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Carl2291 said:
Sony launched the PS3 at $600.

PS3 at the time took ~$800 to make.

Losing $200 per console is a pretty big risk...

Consequences are risks now? Nice spin. I'm sure Kutaragi got removed as SCE head for not being risky enough.

Not spin at all.

A definition of "Risk" for you people.

"The possibility of bringing about misfortune or loss"

Launching your console at $600, when it costs $800 to make... gives a huge possiblity of misfortune, and a 100% possiblity of loss

Big, big risk.

It would have been a bigger risk to sell it at or above cost, because even less people would be interested in it. They were forced to drop the price to make it more appealing.

It would have been a bigger risk to make profit for a short while? No... Just no.

Launching at $600 and losing a fuck load of money is a much bigger risk than launching at $250 and making money.

I'd like to know what you think about the possible reasons behind the machine costing as much as it did initially. Do you think these were calculated risks? There are no doubt a lot of decisions which led to both this and Ken's forced retirement, but until then, I don't think we can say that the launch price was a particularly smart risk. It dented the brand, somewhat.

That is the whole point... It was a huge risk.



                            

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Orca_Azure on 06 October 2009
O-D-C said:
3rd place and still arrogant? Ah Sony

It must be tough for a company that won two previous generations to be in third. :p i still love them though.

They're like Michael jackson- They made Thriller (ps2) :p no matter what they have a place in the hearts of many



Carl on 06 October 2009

@ CGI

HR isn't first party is it?



                            

leo-j on 06 October 2009

I find it hilarious you guys are taking this article so seriously.. the fact destructroid spun it around to such a negative view against sony..



 

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angrypoolman on 06 October 2009
Carl2291 said:
angrypoolman said:
Carl2291 said:
angrypoolman said:
Carl2291 said:
Gnac said:
Carl2291 said:
Sony launched the PS3 at $600.

PS3 at the time took ~$800 to make.

Losing $200 per console is a pretty big risk...

Consequences are risks now? Nice spin. I'm sure Kutaragi got removed as SCE head for not being risky enough.

Not spin at all.

A definition of "Risk" for you people.

"The possibility of bringing about misfortune or loss"

Launching your console at $600, when it costs $800 to make... gives a huge possiblity of misfortune, and a 100% possiblity of loss

Big, big risk.

For Nintendo to make that risk would be suicide since gaming is all they have. Sony was able to sell consoles at a loss because they sell a shit ton of other stuff too.

It just goes to show you what Sony is willing to do to make profits. Not that profits shouldn't be sought after, but they are willing to risk losing their entire position in the gaming industry in order to make blu ray the new standard.

Basically the only types of risks that Sony makes are financial ones since it really wouldn't make a whole lot of difference to them if they were in the video game business or not. Aside from that, it is Nintendo that are the true innovators; the true pioneers of video games.

Yet Jack never mentioned innovating in the quote. He said Sony take more risks, and still deliver. Which is true.

They are STILL selling PS3 at a loss and this year they have pumped out more AAA exclusives than Ninty and MS.

Innovation is a risk. Things were not looking too bright for the DS when it first came out..

In any case, I will give you that Sony has put out more triple A titles than Ninty and MS this year (does microsoft even count? they dont make games). I would like to add that Nintendo is working on a new Mario, Metroid, and Zelda right now though. and I am pretty sure all of these will come out in 2010.

Blu-ray, Cell, PSP Go. All different way's of innovating or bringing something new to the table. Add that to Sony's pricing risk...

Glad you agree, i had the facts waiting for you to disagree

Yep, yep they do. But Sony also have The Last Guardian, God of War 3 and Gran Turismo 5... And that's just for the first half of the year. For once, we don't actually know what else Sony have planned.

Hahaha. Well, you know Nintendo. I am sure they are working on something that they are not telling us about right now. We have known about GoW and GT5 since 2007. Nintendo is going to have iterations of their three biggest franchises next year so while I am willing to give the win to Sony this year, I fully expect Nintendo to stomp all over these two next year as far as first party titles go.



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Carl on 06 October 2009
leo-j said:
I find it hilarious you guys are taking this article so seriously.. the fact destructroid spun it around to such a negative view against sony..

It is Destructoid afterall...



                            

peachbuggy on 06 October 2009

More trash talk from Sony? Now there's a surprise. It's easy to talk trash when you are in last place. I just wonder if they would still talk trash if they were in first place. We will never know.....



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couchmonkey on 06 October 2009
Xoj said:

about taking risk, he is right.

nintendo plays save. their risk was trying to sell a less spec console just with the motion control.
but even so they would have never lost money, just marketshare.

And in losing marketshare Nintendo would have risked going out of business...or at least third party!  There's nothing else for this company to fall back on, and you can't be a console developer if only a few million people are willing to buy your hardware.



jesus kung fu magic on 06 October 2009

@carl

You fail to realize that consequence and risk are two different things......the ps3 and 360 are a natural progression of console systems of years past , the wii isnt. It tried to innovate how we play console games , while the 360/ps3 only focused on adding a new shiny coat of paint in the graphics department with ZERO innovation to gaming.

 

Sony did not risk for the sake of innovation......they are just paying the consequenses of their poor business decisions thats it.

 



N64 is the ONLY console of the fifth generation!!!

mansirguy on 06 October 2009

ps3 is the worst console this generation so they say rediculous things to get attention.
It's always the loser that pretends they are the best sandisk, jaguar, sony yeah you know it's true