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axumblade said:
They're talking about financially. Do you really think Nintendo were ever selling the Wii or DS at a loss? The systems were experiments but they still made money off of every one sold, whereas Sony lost a lot out of every one sold.

So they are boasting against Nintendo's financial stabilitiy? Umm.... yeah.



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Gnac said:
Carl2291 said:
Sony launched the PS3 at $600.

PS3 at the time took ~$800 to make.

Losing $200 per console is a pretty big risk...

Consequences are risks now? Nice spin.

yea and so is 3D gaming



 

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Releasing a console to the market that can't compete graphically with the other two is a much bigger risk than any other taken in any console generation considering that the first thing that you perceive about a game is the graphics. Motion controls of course were another big risk, a portable with two screens and a touch screen was another big risk. Sony may have sold at a loss even with a very high price but they were an already established name that lead the market for two generations with a console that is filled with features, If N's idea didn't ring with the general public it would have been a complete disaster, cheap components or no.



They took the risk that the market insisted on Blu-Ray now.

They took the risk that tilt controls would entice the populace.

They took the risk that the market is willing to support a purely DD handheld.

They took the risk that third-parties would continue to make exclusives for their system without extensive moneyhatting.

They took the risk that their first and second party studios could carry their systems single-handedly.

They took the risk of consumers getting a second job just to buy their system.

They took the risk that the rest of the corporation was willing to subsidize them even if they lost all the money they've assembled in the past decade.

They're about to take the risk that people will want to pay for and play with the Wand.

Nintendo, by contrast, does extensive research about almost every aspect of gaming and gamers before they commit to any move. This includes the DS and the Wii. They also take moves to minimize any harm that results if they read the market incorrectly.



No, I'd say he's being pretty accurate.



I want to say this is aimed more towards the handheld market in terms of the PSP Go.



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He's actually right. Nintendo is an extremely conservative company. They make sure they just cannot lose money on anything they do (a bit of a hyperbole but you get the idea).

Sony is taking much more risk by investing billions of dollars and they never really know if they'll ever see it back again. Just look at the PS3, it's costed them all the profit they made with the PS1 and PS2.

Does that make Sony better than Nintendo? Au contraire. Nintendo know much better how to operate business than Sony. But you can't say Sony doesn't have some balls at least.



axumblade said:
They're talking about financially. Do you really think Nintendo were ever selling the Wii or DS at a loss? The systems were experiments but they still made money off of every one sold, whereas Sony lost a lot out of every one sold.

Good point.

I like how your meter never points to Nintendo. lulz.



noname2200 said:
They took the risk that the market insisted on Blu-Ray now.

They took the risk that tilt controls would entice the populace.

They took the risk that the market is willing to support a purely DD handheld.

They took the risk that third-parties would continue to make exclusives for their system without extensive moneyhatting.

They took the risk that their first and second party studios could carry their systems single-handedly.

They took the risk of consumers getting a second job just to buy their system.

They took the risk that the rest of the corporation was willing to subsidize them even if they lost all the money they've assembled in the past decade.

They're about to take the risk that people will want to pay for and play with the Wand.

Nintendo, by contrast, does extensive research about almost every aspect of gaming and gamers before they commit to any move. This includes the DS and the Wii. They also take moves to minimize any harm that results if they read the market incorrectly.



No, I'd say he's being pretty accurate.

Nintendo has done that for 13 years. And will continue to do it for the remainder of the Wii's lifetime.



Gnac said:
Carl2291 said:
Sony launched the PS3 at $600.

PS3 at the time took ~$800 to make.

Losing $200 per console is a pretty big risk...

Consequences are risks now? Nice spin. I'm sure Kutaragi got removed as SCE head for not being risky enough.

Not spin at all.

A definition of "Risk" for you people.

"The possibility of bringing about misfortune or loss"

Launching your console at $600, when it costs $800 to make... gives a huge possiblity of misfortune, and a 100% possiblity of loss

Big, big risk.



                            

buzzard said:
Releasing a console to the market that can't compete graphically with the other two is a much bigger risk than any other taken in any console generation considering that the first thing that you perceive about a game is the graphics. Motion controls of course were another big risk, a portable with two screens and a touch screen was another big risk. Sony may have sold at a loss even with a very high price but they were an already established name that lead the market for two generations with a console that is filled with features, If N's idea didn't ring with the general public it would have been a complete disaster, cheap components or no.

Oh VERY GOOD. PS2 did beat the Dreamcast graphics wise. Look what happened to that. Of course I do understand that Sony had a bigger advantage than Sega financially, and Sony PS1 already built up a cult of followers.



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