You could say the same for any game. Setting difficulty to the highest and playing a more skill build will require more care and consideration. Hell, you can't beat Dynasty Warriors on the hardest difficult using Zhen Ji (or another fast, not so powerful character), but this doesn't make DW suddenly a deep game and not a button masher.

@ Slimebeast

Again, SO 4 didn't have a demo, and if you could just mash RT against normal enemies, you're character sucked hard. One thing about the game is that it was so easy!

I'm confused. SO4 was easy and you think that'sa good thing?

@outlawauron

it depends

I didn't do that, I used intricate magic spells & had loads of short cuts.....I played it tactfully with magic

some people may just HACK HACK HACK with a axe though

@Outlawauron

We're talking RPG's in here, don't go out-genre please. In most JRPG's you don't have that possibility, and since you're stuck with different set difficulties, it makes you think and execute different strategies in order to win and progress in the harder battles.

In most WRPG's, and Oblivion too, you can approach the game in many different settings, and in the harder settings, you can't possibily hack your way to victory, and in Oblivion's case, even if you play on the lower difficulties using a mage character, using that same strategy will lead you to your doom.

My mistake. here is what I said.

1. SO 4 did not  have a demo.

2. In Oblivion, if you couldn't beat normal enemies just hitting RT, you're character sucked hard. The game was very easy.

Why does genre matter in this situation. In games where can win by button mashing, setting the difficulty higher or at the highest setting will make the option obsolete. I was pointing out that you can't use that as an excuse for it. This is almost something that's universal.

Well, the same can be said for some JRPG's. Especially FFX, since even the hardest challenges in the game, the Dark Aeons/Penance/Nemesis, I beat them with just using Quick Hit over and over again, that means just using the same buttons over and over again. Does that make FFX was easy too?

Yes Oblivion was too easy on the default difficulty, but it was fairly hard if you put difficulty on max.

Mankar Camoran and his children were almost impossible to defeat on max difficulty even with a good character. Same when you had to flee from the Mythic Dawn.

I'd hope that the hardest difficult would be tough, but saying "put the game on hard, then it actually becomes a challenge" isn't much of an excuse. I always play on Normal the first time through since that's how the game was meant to be played.

@ lestat

Could you beat those Dark Aeons without a ridiculous amount of grinding beforehand? No, you couldn't.

Actually, the grinding part of the game was only 40-50 hours, and not even that was hard too, which is point of the discussion. You could grind hundred of hours in Oblivion to get all the map explored too, and that wouldn't affect the difficulty per se.

All RPG's can be easy or hard depending of your experience with those kind of games, some people find WRPG's easy, some find JRPG's easy, it all comes down to skill, and how you play the game plays a major part in it because either you play it, trying to explore all possibilites and strategies that the game has to offer, or you can zoom through the game, playing the easiest way the game allows you to do.