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Millennium on 17 September 2009
ameratsu said:

I'm suprised there hasn't been anymore leaks yet.

I'm not. It's just further evidence that the "price cut" is a hoax: all of the so-called "leaked ads" go back to a single source which cannot be corroborated..



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ameratsu on 18 September 2009
Millennium said:
ameratsu said:

I'm suprised there hasn't been anymore leaks yet.

I'm not. It's just further evidence that the "price cut" is a hoax: all of the so-called "leaked ads" go back to a single source which cannot be corroborated..

 

Someone is in denial. The leaks that happened today should probably shut up the last of the doubters though. Regardless, I'm amazed as always that people spin this as a bad thing, even after almost three years.



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trestres on 18 September 2009
mortono said:
trestres said:
It's not really a successsor. It's a replacement for the original bundle, since Wii Fit is no longer being made. It's basically the same game with some new activities that has been on shelves for over a year and a half now, and costs 10$ more.

I doubt people will go crazy for a game that was available to them for that long already.

I'm sure it will sell in heaps to Wii Fit owners, but it will barely have any effect on potential buyers. It's not a new concept or a new game, it's the same Wii Fit with more content.

Wii fit plus may not follow your "core" rules for being a successor. From a core perspective we think "this ain't enough, gimme more!" but from a casual perspective this package makes sense. Instead of having a shitload of new content (although 15 balance games is a shitload to me), the accessibility is widened so that more new players can get into the game. I believe this was the main point driven about Wii Fit Plus at E3. Specifically decreasing the time waiting between workouts and streamlining the more annoying aspects of the original game.

Yes it will probably start off selling heaps to original Wii Fit owners. But I also predict that, as word-of-mouth spreads, it will start increasing HW sales as new customers hear about the game.

Besides that, the original Wii Fit is still selling very well and driving system sells. It has almost consistantly placed in the worldwide top ten for almost a year and a half. This "replacement" as you call it will most assuredly boost those sales, once again, as we get into the holidays.

How will casual players know about this if they don't even follow E3.

They have been hearing about it for 18 months already, I doubt all of a sudden they will start caring if they didn't for the last 1 and a half years.



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mortono on 18 September 2009
trestres said:
mortono said:
trestres said:
It's not really a successsor. It's a replacement for the original bundle, since Wii Fit is no longer being made. It's basically the same game with some new activities that has been on shelves for over a year and a half now, and costs 10$ more.

I doubt people will go crazy for a game that was available to them for that long already.

I'm sure it will sell in heaps to Wii Fit owners, but it will barely have any effect on potential buyers. It's not a new concept or a new game, it's the same Wii Fit with more content.

Wii fit plus may not follow your "core" rules for being a successor. From a core perspective we think "this ain't enough, gimme more!" but from a casual perspective this package makes sense. Instead of having a shitload of new content (although 15 balance games is a shitload to me), the accessibility is widened so that more new players can get into the game. I believe this was the main point driven about Wii Fit Plus at E3. Specifically decreasing the time waiting between workouts and streamlining the more annoying aspects of the original game.

Yes it will probably start off selling heaps to original Wii Fit owners. But I also predict that, as word-of-mouth spreads, it will start increasing HW sales as new customers hear about the game.

Besides that, the original Wii Fit is still selling very well and driving system sells. It has almost consistantly placed in the worldwide top ten for almost a year and a half. This "replacement" as you call it will most assuredly boost those sales, once again, as we get into the holidays.

How will casual players know about this if they don't even follow E3.

They have been hearing about it for 18 months already, I doubt all of a sudden they will start caring if they didn't for the last 1 and a half years.

There are other forms of marketing other than trade shows and gaming websites, you know.

Also, there's still a large, untapped audience for fitness games. It's not like releasing a first person shooter where the market is overcrowded and oversaturated with content. If it's true that the new game is more accessible and more fun than the first, then it should be no suprise if this game starts reeling in new gamers over the holidays.

Take a look at Guitar Hero. Guitar Hero II and III didn't really change the formula all that much, but they still attracted droves of new gamers and are a very good reason for the continued success of the PS2. Now why can't Wii Fit do the same thing?



trestres on 18 September 2009

This is not a sequel, it's an expansion. Also, neither GH5 nor RockBand boosted sales the past 2 weeks.

If WSR, the sequel to the most owned videogame ever, wasn's able to manage a sustained boost, how is an expansion to a smaller game supposed to manage a bigger boost, considering it's even more expensive than the original. Doesn't compute.



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Zlejedi on 18 September 2009

I can't belive people trust there will be no price cut because Nintendo doesn't confirm it.

Can you show single case in consoles history when price cut was announced by confirming rumor like that ?

Either way Nintendo stock price is going to suffer becouse either they won't meet sales target or if they price drop they are going to miss their profit target for 2009.



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Avinash_Tyagi on 18 September 2009
Zlejedi said:
I can't belive people trust there will be no price cut because Nintendo doesn't confirm it.

Can you show single case in consoles history when price cut was announced by confirming rumor like that ?

Either way Nintendo stock price is going to suffer becouse either they won't meet sales target or if they price drop they are going to miss their profit target for 2009.

Every company at some point before the cut makes it official, right now Nintendo doesn't seem to be preparing to do that, even with nine days left, so some are suspicious, I still think my theory is what is going to happen, so I expect there will be a sale pricing for the Wii sports bundle



 

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Zlejedi on 18 September 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Zlejedi said:
I can't belive people trust there will be no price cut because Nintendo doesn't confirm it.

Can you show single case in consoles history when price cut was announced by confirming rumor like that ?

Either way Nintendo stock price is going to suffer becouse either they won't meet sales target or if they price drop they are going to miss their profit target for 2009.

Every company at some point before the cut makes it official, right now Nintendo doesn't seem to be preparing to do that, even with nine days left, so some are suspicious, I still think my theory is what is going to happen, so I expect there will be a sale pricing for the Wii sports bundle

Yes you theor also makes sense.

Altrough i would be sad if it did becouse it means i won't be able to buy second hand 100 euro Wii any time soon :)



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mortono on 18 September 2009

Well what would the game need to have to make it a sequel anyways? 100 exercises?

Wii Sports Resort is just beginning to increase HW sales (Iwata said it would take 6-8 weeks). Wii sales remained flat this week, the seventh week since Wii Sports Resort was released worldwide. We should see HW sales slowly picking up week after week as we head into the holidays.

Of course if a price cut happens it will only accelerate all this, which is probably why Nintendo is considering it.







Asriel on 18 September 2009

Nintendo will dismiss the rumours and speculation until the price cut is announced. In fact, until the price cut is announced, there are only rumours and speculation.