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ironman said:

Whoa! I blame PCs for the fight sticks. Other than that, Make no mistake, two of the three major consoles are more PCish than anything before them. Console gaming owes a lot to PCs, but the era of PC gaming being the king is over. I'm not saying PC gaming is a horrible thing,obviously it's not because millions of people game on PCs daily, I'm just saying that the Console has taken over in many aspects.

@ Vlad...funny, I was just going to post the same thing, you have failed to convince me that you know what you are talking about since I have had to hold your hand every step of the way. It's funny because I am not a huge PC gamer, and I know more about the technical aspect of it than you. I am glad you decieded to stop embarrassing yourself, it's better for everybody involved...except for those looking in and laughing at your failed points.

Let me ask you this, when has PC ever been king? And king in terms of what? Amuse me with your answer, because never has PC been so close to the console industry in terms of marketshare, and never has PC had so much more game releases before this gen (there are far more PC games in development than all console games combined).

In what aspects has consoles taken over. The way I see it, they have only copied what PC is doing, without ever being able to challenge PC in them.



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happytheclam said:

Alby_The_Wolf  That pad you have looks pretty intense.  Can't wait to start seeing the full 3d interactive chair with vibrating heat bead gaming centers.

Its main advantage is that it reduces the probability of hitting the wrong keys instead of the WASD ones, but for games like Planescape: Torment, where you can bind a lot of commands to keys, I end up accepting the greater error rate of WASD on the keyboard for the convenience of having a lot of favourite spells and actions readily available besides the standard commands, that the pad would have enough keys for. Maybe, as that pad replicates keyboard keys, I can try to figure out a scheme to use the pad for all the most common actions and the keybord for less common ones.

About 3d chairs, there were some comics about them on userfriendly.org

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20000601

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20000602

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20000603

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20000605

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20000606

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20000611



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ironman said:
Smidlee said:
ironman said:
 

@Smidlee, Fight sticks do give players an advantage,but that is just entering the console market, I blame PCs for that shit. Anyway, Keyboards and Mice are actually a detriment to console gaming so your point there...is naturally moot.

I don't get why you want to blame PC. When it comes to console you are at the mercy of Sony, Mircosoft, Nintendo as they want to control everything. What I find surprising is Sony is a little more friendly toward PC then Microsoft is.  Of course for the most part all three of them want you to buy and use their products as they get a cut from them.

From my experience keyboards and mouse practically lasts forever as I have yet to have any to stop working including my old ball mouses. Yet I had a pile of console controllers to wear out. (including PC flight sticks)

With PC gamers has greater freedom not only in choosing which controls we want to use but also in modding games. It's true that some will abuse this freedom yet I still like this freedom.

 Someone  else claimed that  PC gaming is dead . If this is true then consoles isn't far behind since consoles have greatly benefited from the PC.

Whoa! I blame PCs for the fight sticks. Other than that, Make no mistake, two of the three major consoles are more PCish than anything before them. Console gaming owes a lot to PCs, but the era of PC gaming being the king is over. I'm not saying PC gaming is a horrible thing,obviously it's not because millions of people game on PCs daily, I'm just saying that the Console has taken over in many aspects.

@ Vlad...funny, I was just going to post the same thing, you have failed to convince me that you know what you are talking about since I have had to hold your hand every step of the way. It's funny because I am not a huge PC gamer, and I know more about the technical aspect of it than you. I am glad you decieded to stop embarrassing yourself, it's better for everybody involved...except for those looking in and laughing at your failed points.

I'm not gonna even bother with someone who has no damn clue what they ae talking about. I bet you are one of those people that when they lose they say "that wasn't skill! that was a more comfortable chair!" in your halo games. Whatever rocks your boat.

You can lead a horse to water.... you know the rest.



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shio said:
ironman said:

Whoa! I blame PCs for the fight sticks. Other than that, Make no mistake, two of the three major consoles are more PCish than anything before them. Console gaming owes a lot to PCs, but the era of PC gaming being the king is over. I'm not saying PC gaming is a horrible thing,obviously it's not because millions of people game on PCs daily, I'm just saying that the Console has taken over in many aspects.

@ Vlad...funny, I was just going to post the same thing, you have failed to convince me that you know what you are talking about since I have had to hold your hand every step of the way. It's funny because I am not a huge PC gamer, and I know more about the technical aspect of it than you. I am glad you decieded to stop embarrassing yourself, it's better for everybody involved...except for those looking in and laughing at your failed points.

Let me ask you this, when has PC ever been king? And king in terms of what? Amuse me with your answer, because never has PC been so close to the console industry in terms of marketshare, and never has PC had so much more game releases before this gen (there are far more PC games in development than all console games combined).

In what aspects has consoles taken over. The way I see it, they have only copied what PC is doing, without ever being able to challenge PC in them.

Uh....Back in the late 70s, PCs (including Macs) were the ONLY venue for gaming.

Following this, we had Atari and NES come out, but PCs were still huge.  Especially in Japan and Europe, PCs not only held vast marketshare, but rivaled the consoles.  Indeed, the PC units spawned many of the Console hits and many games that came out on the Atari or NES were also on PC platforms such as MSX, Commodore or IBM (Dragon Quest, Metal Gear, Castlevania, Maniac Mansion, etc).  Plus, the PC was way ahead of the consoles in certain areas of innovation and processing power.  While the Genesis and Super Nintendo was just coming out, the PC was coming out with games like Tie Fighter and Sim City 2000.  Its arguable to say that PC was more successful than consoles for quite a while.

It wasn't until around the mid 90s that consoles really started to overtake the PC market.  Mostly because of a combination of a lot of good PC developers began to taper off of making good solid games and because consoles kept rising in both quality and quantity.  As soon as the Playstation and N64 came out, the PC had some major competition.  But at that time, they had little to offer aside from Blizzard and a fledgling FPS market.  Many of its key genres had either lost interest or support from developers (simulation games, action/adventure games, puzzle games, etc).  Some of these genres are coming back now, but its only due to the effort of very select companies.



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Kenryoku_Maxis said:
shio said:
ironman said:

Whoa! I blame PCs for the fight sticks. Other than that, Make no mistake, two of the three major consoles are more PCish than anything before them. Console gaming owes a lot to PCs, but the era of PC gaming being the king is over. I'm not saying PC gaming is a horrible thing,obviously it's not because millions of people game on PCs daily, I'm just saying that the Console has taken over in many aspects.

@ Vlad...funny, I was just going to post the same thing, you have failed to convince me that you know what you are talking about since I have had to hold your hand every step of the way. It's funny because I am not a huge PC gamer, and I know more about the technical aspect of it than you. I am glad you decieded to stop embarrassing yourself, it's better for everybody involved...except for those looking in and laughing at your failed points.

Let me ask you this, when has PC ever been king? And king in terms of what? Amuse me with your answer, because never has PC been so close to the console industry in terms of marketshare, and never has PC had so much more game releases before this gen (there are far more PC games in development than all console games combined).

In what aspects has consoles taken over. The way I see it, they have only copied what PC is doing, without ever being able to challenge PC in them.

Uh....Back in the late 70s, PCs (including Macs) were the ONLY venue for gaming.

Following this, we had Atari and NES come out, but PCs were still huge.  Especially in Japan and Europe, PCs not only held vast marketshare, but rivaled the consoles.  Indeed, the PC units spawned many of the Console hits and many games that came out on the Atari or NES were also on PC platforms such as MSX, Commodore or IBM (Dragon Quest, Metal Gear, Castlevania, Maniac Mansion, etc).  Plus, the PC was way ahead of the consoles in certain areas of innovation and processing power.  While the Genesis and Super Nintendo was just coming out, the PC was coming out with games like Tie Fighter and Sim City 2000.  Its arguable to say that PC was more successful than consoles for quite a while.

It wasn't until around the mid 90s that consoles really started to overtake the PC market.  Mostly because of a combination of a lot of good PC developers began to taper off of making good solid games and because consoles kept rising in both quality and quantity.  As soon as the Playstation and N64 came out, the PC had some major competition.  But at that time, they had little to offer aside from Blizzard and a fledgling FPS market.  Many of its key genres had either lost interest or support from developers (simulation games, action/adventure games, puzzle games, etc).  Some of these genres are coming back now, but its only due to the effort of very select companies.

You don't know anything. Consoles were the first ones to reach the public, and PCs only did the same 10 years after the consoles. In the 70's and early 80's, the PC gaming scene was pretty much composed of hobbyists making small PC games as a hobby. And it was only in the 90's that PC reached mainstream, something consoles had done in the 80's.

PC gaming was never bigger than Console gaming, but now it is starting to challenge them. PC gaming will keep gaining space the more this gen continues.



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shio said:

You don't know anything. Consoles were the first ones to reach the public, and PCs only did the same 10 years after the consoles. In the 70's and early 80's, the PC gaming scene was pretty much composed of hobbyists making small PC games as a hobby. And it was only in the 90's that PC reached mainstream, something consoles had done in the 80's.

PC gaming was never bigger than Console gaming, but now it is starting to challenge them. PC gaming will keep gaining space the more this gen continues.

Oh for God's sake

The fact that gamers back then were all hobbyists who had to manually enter code for their own games (until the early 80's) doesn't mean that they did not compose the gaming scene! yes, it was smaller then, but PC gaming was all that there was in terms of video games for many, many years!



shio said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
shio said:
ironman said:

Whoa! I blame PCs for the fight sticks. Other than that, Make no mistake, two of the three major consoles are more PCish than anything before them. Console gaming owes a lot to PCs, but the era of PC gaming being the king is over. I'm not saying PC gaming is a horrible thing,obviously it's not because millions of people game on PCs daily, I'm just saying that the Console has taken over in many aspects.

@ Vlad...funny, I was just going to post the same thing, you have failed to convince me that you know what you are talking about since I have had to hold your hand every step of the way. It's funny because I am not a huge PC gamer, and I know more about the technical aspect of it than you. I am glad you decieded to stop embarrassing yourself, it's better for everybody involved...except for those looking in and laughing at your failed points.

Let me ask you this, when has PC ever been king? And king in terms of what? Amuse me with your answer, because never has PC been so close to the console industry in terms of marketshare, and never has PC had so much more game releases before this gen (there are far more PC games in development than all console games combined).

In what aspects has consoles taken over. The way I see it, they have only copied what PC is doing, without ever being able to challenge PC in them.

Uh....Back in the late 70s, PCs (including Macs) were the ONLY venue for gaming.

Following this, we had Atari and NES come out, but PCs were still huge.  Especially in Japan and Europe, PCs not only held vast marketshare, but rivaled the consoles.  Indeed, the PC units spawned many of the Console hits and many games that came out on the Atari or NES were also on PC platforms such as MSX, Commodore or IBM (Dragon Quest, Metal Gear, Castlevania, Maniac Mansion, etc).  Plus, the PC was way ahead of the consoles in certain areas of innovation and processing power.  While the Genesis and Super Nintendo was just coming out, the PC was coming out with games like Tie Fighter and Sim City 2000.  Its arguable to say that PC was more successful than consoles for quite a while.

It wasn't until around the mid 90s that consoles really started to overtake the PC market.  Mostly because of a combination of a lot of good PC developers began to taper off of making good solid games and because consoles kept rising in both quality and quantity.  As soon as the Playstation and N64 came out, the PC had some major competition.  But at that time, they had little to offer aside from Blizzard and a fledgling FPS market.  Many of its key genres had either lost interest or support from developers (simulation games, action/adventure games, puzzle games, etc).  Some of these genres are coming back now, but its only due to the effort of very select companies.

You don't know anything. Consoles were the first ones to reach the public, and PCs only did the same 10 years after the consoles. In the 70's and early 80's, the PC gaming scene was pretty much composed of hobbyists making small PC games as a hobby. And it was only in the 90's that PC reached mainstream, something consoles had done in the 80's.

PC gaming was never bigger than Console gaming, but now it is starting to challenge them. PC gaming will keep gaining space the more this gen continues.

Going for the 'nyah nyah, you're stupid' argument?

Consoles came from entrepeneurs who wanted to make a profit off of people who had TVs.  But their platforms were modeled off of hardware and software from Arcades and, *shock* PCs.  And either you are going to admit it (or go back and research the facts yourself), but all the early games, from RPGs to early Adventure games (text based and the first graphics based games) to the first simulation games to even the first FPS games were all on PC.



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Khuutra said:
shio said:

You don't know anything. Consoles were the first ones to reach the public, and PCs only did the same 10 years after the consoles. In the 70's and early 80's, the PC gaming scene was pretty much composed of hobbyists making small PC games as a hobby. And it was only in the 90's that PC reached mainstream, something consoles had done in the 80's.

PC gaming was never bigger than Console gaming, but now it is starting to challenge them. PC gaming will keep gaining space the more this gen continues.

Oh for God's sake

The fact that gamers back then were all hobbyists who had to manually enter code for their own games (until the early 80's) doesn't mean that they did not compose the gaming scene! yes, it was smaller then, but PC gaming was all that there was in terms of video games for many, many years!

That is a silly statement. Back then, PC gaming didn't have a chance because the games were almost never sold, weren't advertised and were not available to the general public. Consoles, though, already had Atari 2600 in the 70's, which was going to the public, and sold 30 millions. The PC gaming scene was pretty much a bunch of college kids fiddling with the codes.

The fact is, console gaming had a decade of headstart, but now PC gaming is catching up.



Kenryoku_Maxis said:
shio said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
shio said:
ironman said:

Whoa! I blame PCs for the fight sticks. Other than that, Make no mistake, two of the three major consoles are more PCish than anything before them. Console gaming owes a lot to PCs, but the era of PC gaming being the king is over. I'm not saying PC gaming is a horrible thing,obviously it's not because millions of people game on PCs daily, I'm just saying that the Console has taken over in many aspects.

@ Vlad...funny, I was just going to post the same thing, you have failed to convince me that you know what you are talking about since I have had to hold your hand every step of the way. It's funny because I am not a huge PC gamer, and I know more about the technical aspect of it than you. I am glad you decieded to stop embarrassing yourself, it's better for everybody involved...except for those looking in and laughing at your failed points.

Let me ask you this, when has PC ever been king? And king in terms of what? Amuse me with your answer, because never has PC been so close to the console industry in terms of marketshare, and never has PC had so much more game releases before this gen (there are far more PC games in development than all console games combined).

In what aspects has consoles taken over. The way I see it, they have only copied what PC is doing, without ever being able to challenge PC in them.

Uh....Back in the late 70s, PCs (including Macs) were the ONLY venue for gaming.

Following this, we had Atari and NES come out, but PCs were still huge.  Especially in Japan and Europe, PCs not only held vast marketshare, but rivaled the consoles.  Indeed, the PC units spawned many of the Console hits and many games that came out on the Atari or NES were also on PC platforms such as MSX, Commodore or IBM (Dragon Quest, Metal Gear, Castlevania, Maniac Mansion, etc).  Plus, the PC was way ahead of the consoles in certain areas of innovation and processing power.  While the Genesis and Super Nintendo was just coming out, the PC was coming out with games like Tie Fighter and Sim City 2000.  Its arguable to say that PC was more successful than consoles for quite a while.

It wasn't until around the mid 90s that consoles really started to overtake the PC market.  Mostly because of a combination of a lot of good PC developers began to taper off of making good solid games and because consoles kept rising in both quality and quantity.  As soon as the Playstation and N64 came out, the PC had some major competition.  But at that time, they had little to offer aside from Blizzard and a fledgling FPS market.  Many of its key genres had either lost interest or support from developers (simulation games, action/adventure games, puzzle games, etc).  Some of these genres are coming back now, but its only due to the effort of very select companies.

You don't know anything. Consoles were the first ones to reach the public, and PCs only did the same 10 years after the consoles. In the 70's and early 80's, the PC gaming scene was pretty much composed of hobbyists making small PC games as a hobby. And it was only in the 90's that PC reached mainstream, something consoles had done in the 80's.

PC gaming was never bigger than Console gaming, but now it is starting to challenge them. PC gaming will keep gaining space the more this gen continues.

Going for the 'nyah nyah, you're stupid' argument?

Consoles came from entrepeneurs who wanted to make a profit off of people who had TVs.  But their platforms were modeled off of hardware and software from Arcades and, *shock* PCs.  And either you are going to admit it (or go back and research the facts yourself), but all the early games, from RPGs to early Adventure games (text based and the first graphics based games) to the first simulation games to even the first FPS games were all on PC.

Think. Consoles would've never existed if Computers weren't invented, and that's not the point. The point is, that in the 70's, Computer games was only a hobby thing, and there were more consoles sold than PCs!!!!!!

In 1977 only 48 thousand PCs were sold worldwide! That year was also marked by the launch of Atari 2600, a console that sold 30 millions! In 2007, 264 millions PC were sold. See the difference?

EDIT: My guess is in the 70's, consoles had like 99% of the game sales, while PC has 1% or something. But today it is very different.



I just know from my experience that there were a lot more Atari and Nintendo around in the 80's than C-64. Cartridges was a lot more convenient and faster than waiting on the extremely slow C-64 floppy drive to load a game. Even before that it was a tape recorder. I still remember the awful sounds the floppy drive made.