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DM235 on 10 September 2009

I still don't understand any of the hype surrounding Natal. Aside from an interesting way to navigate menus or pick movies, why would anyone care about playing games without a controller? Do you play tennis by flapping your hands? Do you drive a car without a steering wheel? Maybe there are people out there who have deep aspirations to becoming a mime can finally live out their dreams, but I'm not one of those people. I agree that a 16-button controller may be intimidating for some people, but I think the Wii's approach with steering wheels and tennis rackets, where the standard controller fits inside them, is more "natural".

Besides, I can see Natal backfiring when you do some sort of hand gesture to rub it in to a friend after beating them, only to have Natal misinterpret it and either cause you to crash or lob a hand grenade at yourself.

Maybe Microsoft will amaze us all, but I'll believe it when I see it.



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darendt on 10 September 2009
thabigdon24 said:
Does anybody really think that MS will sell us the Natal add-on for less than $100? I just dont think that a few cameras and sensors and considering the extensive research that MS keeps talking about, that this can come in at less than $100 and certainly not less than $75. I really don't think that we will see many games at all for Natal, heck just as any add-on. Why would developers only want potential buyers not among the whole group of 360 people, but among the 20% that might actually get this? Developers just won't want to make many games for this unless ms forks over some major $$$$ for incentives.

dont mind me, i'm just being the realist over here.

I second this. There WiFi add-on is a hundred bucks, or was when it launched. This thing will be the cost of a PS3 when it comes out. By that I mean $199, cause the PS3 will have had another price drop. To top it off, it will not sell well and the games will be gimmicky like the Wii and PSeye.



JEDE3 on 10 September 2009

Ps3 won't have another drop for another until April '11 I say.



ShadowSoldier on 10 September 2009
darendt said:
thabigdon24 said:
Does anybody really think that MS will sell us the Natal add-on for less than $100? I just dont think that a few cameras and sensors and considering the extensive research that MS keeps talking about, that this can come in at less than $100 and certainly not less than $75. I really don't think that we will see many games at all for Natal, heck just as any add-on. Why would developers only want potential buyers not among the whole group of 360 people, but among the 20% that might actually get this? Developers just won't want to make many games for this unless ms forks over some major $$$$ for incentives.

dont mind me, i'm just being the realist over here.

I second this. There WiFi add-on is a hundred bucks, or was when it launched. This thing will be the cost of a PS3 when it comes out. By that I mean $199, cause the PS3 will have had another price drop. To top it off, it will not sell well and the games will be gimmicky like the Wii and PSeye.

It still is...lucky for me I found a bypass for that. And I have to say MS is either going to take a heavy loss by bundling NATAL with their system at either

A) Up the price of the 360 by 50-150 bucks

B) Add a 3rd SKU which includes NATAL and an elite with a bigger HDD at a hundred bucks more than the regular Elites.

C) Bundle NATAL for free?

 

OR

Sell it like Sony's Eye Toy but then the adoption for it might not be as huge as they want or expect it to be. 



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Smashed on 10 September 2009

Wait.. Didn't they say this would support fps games?
How would you run, reload, shoot, throw grenades? The only possible way you can run is if every player was on a rail or something.
Meh.. I don't own an Xbox 360 anyways, just speaking my mind.



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ironman on 10 September 2009
inverted3reality said:
Doesn't look any better than it did at E3, and we all know how that went.

Yeah we do, it produced massive hype, it impressed tens of thousands of people, the only ones not impressed don't understand it, or are just fanboys running scared. But they are a minority. For all you doubters out there, trust me MS will find the best way possible for Natal to be used seamlesly in a variety of gaming genre. 



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susymar on 10 September 2009

The same comments we saw on E3 alongside the Avatar Seizure and problems recognizing black people.

Fix that, and turn it into a flawless motion tracking camera and you'll convince me. And some fun games please :P



legend92(3) on 10 September 2009
DM235 said:
I still don't understand any of the hype surrounding Natal. Aside from an interesting way to navigate menus or pick movies, why would anyone care about playing games without a controller? Do you play tennis by flapping your hands? Do you drive a car without a steering wheel? Maybe there are people out there who have deep aspirations to becoming a mime can finally live out their dreams, but I'm not one of those people. I agree that a 16-button controller may be intimidating for some people, but I think the Wii's approach with steering wheels and tennis rackets, where the standard controller fits inside them, is more "natural".

Besides, I can see Natal backfiring when you do some sort of hand gesture to rub it in to a friend after beating them, only to have Natal misinterpret it and either cause you to crash or lob a hand grenade at yourself.

Maybe Microsoft will amaze us all, but I'll believe it when I see it.

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AlkamistStar on 10 September 2009
inverted3reality said:
Doesn't look any better than it did at E3, and we all know how that went.


yea we do all know how that went...GREAT! It was the most talked about show, and won E3.



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crumas2 on 10 September 2009
thabigdon24 said:
Does anybody really think that MS will sell us the Natal add-on for less than $100? I just dont think that a few cameras and sensors and considering the extensive research that MS keeps talking about, that this can come in at less than $100 and certainly not less than $75. I really don't think that we will see many games at all for Natal, heck just as any add-on. Why would developers only want potential buyers not among the whole group of 360 people, but among the 20% that might actually get this? Developers just won't want to make many games for this unless ms forks over some major $$$$ for incentives.

dont mind me, i'm just being the realist over here.

A big part of what makes Natal tick is the software, which MS typically eats the R&D cost on so it can make money over time.