Again, you are not reading what they are writing.  It's like some people are just so eager to hate anything Microsoft/Windows because it's cool that they just don't pay attention.

They are not saying that no software exists for iPod support, they are saying that there is more software for iPod support on Windows. That is what they are saying.

As for WoW, go ahead and link to the tutorial that you wrote. The fact you had to write a tutorial on how to install a program tells me that I'm right-- installing WoW isn't intuitive.

That is what they mean on the games point-- you don't just insert the disc and press go.

And am I supposed to believe that because your one set of drivers works for your Ubuntu setup works flawlessly and your one set of drivers on Windows doesn't means that is the case for everybody?

I forgot that your one example is enough of a random sampling to constitute everybody.

How many people does it take to form a sample set?

Ubuntu installs flawlessly on my computer.  Installs all drivers without my intervention (including the printer).  The only thing I have to mess with is the proprietary drivers for Nvidia....cause their proprietary.

Well. Linux does not support all my devices out of the box (wlan, dvb-t stick, cellphone, webcam). I got my dvb-t card working.. I just had to make a kernel module and compile a driver. Same goes for webcam.

Oh and of course. Those packages I needed for that wasn't available on default repositories so I had to manually edit my rep list. Also I have to make a new kernel module every time kernel gets a minor update.

Guess what? The damn stick/webcam works perfectly on windows when I pop the cd in. I even get the subtitles!

I switched back to xp from linux and it was a good move.

windows DON'T have the drivers.

the manufacturer supplied to the drivers, as in linux getting more support more drivers from third parties.

linux have all the drivers built in, and even includes .deb to some that aren't.

but microsoft hold deals with many manufactures and even some lock motherboards from linux (foxconn motherboard link any linux install into a fake ACPI config so it can't be installed, even if linux is perfectly capale of using a windows one. or mac one.

Uhh. Windows does not have the drivers, yes. But they do come on a disk which is a lot easier than trying to get HW to work if it does not work out of the box with linux.

No, linux does not have all the drivers built in or come with repositories which offer the drivers.

Funny Microsoft should mention updates.. I just updated yesterday and it nearly bricked my laptop. Seriously, these Vista updates don't work. I had to sit through startup repair then a system restore to fix it. Now I've backed up everything on my computer in fear.

This is pretty underhand and shows the way in which big corporations work behind the scenes to keep control. The thing is though, there is no real mass market alternative to Windows. Linux is not very user friendly for your average consumer, and Mac OS X is just too expensive for most to choose instead when you consider the fact that Apple make their computers insanely overpriced. If Apple built low-end and mid-end computers and laptops with prices to match maybe they'd have a chance.

So for all its flaws, I'm sticking with Windows.

twesterm said: Scoobes said: Okay so here's where it starts getting bad. No iPod support? Really? And the Zune doesn't work on the Mac either although there has been some progress from the Linux community. And I've never had any problems pulling pictures from cameras. I've yet to see a printer that doesn't have a driver. You might have to download it from the products website though (gasp!). Yeah yeah. Software. Although WINE has been vastly improving lately (we even got around that stupid Secu-ROM). There are free alternatives to all of the Windows Live "essentials". WOW. Of all the games to mention, they mention World of Warcraft. I wrote a tutorial on how to get WoW running on Linux not to long ago. Its probably the easiest game to set up with in WINE. Authorized support? Well you have Red Hat and Canonical, oh I guess you can count Novell... Video chat with Pidgin? Or Skype? I don't have time to refute the rest, but I'll post the screenies. Learn to read-- it doesn't say no iPod support, it says limited (or few), As far as I know, WoW does not work natively on Linux.  You have to go do funyn stuff and read a tutorial like you wrote in order to get it to work. They're probably talking about things like this were you have people at places like Best Buy that must complete some sort of training. Again, learn to read.  The word you're missing here is "all." All in all, I'm not sure why you think this is so rediculous.  If you're making something to teach how to sell something to people, of course they are going to do everything in their power to make it sound more awesome than the other thing.

You do realise that I didn't write any of that? I just copied and pasted from the source to save you the click (I know what some are like on these forums). You might want to go to the original link and post that to the original author and see what his response is.

Are you a Microsoft employee by any chance? You sound kinda defensive over something that I only posted for a laugh

1) Linux has non-trivial market share in netbook market.

2) ChromeOS is linux.

Scoobes said: twesterm said: Scoobes said: Okay so here's where it starts getting bad. No iPod support? Really? And the Zune doesn't work on the Mac either although there has been some progress from the Linux community. And I've never had any problems pulling pictures from cameras. I've yet to see a printer that doesn't have a driver. You might have to download it from the products website though (gasp!). Yeah yeah. Software. Although WINE has been vastly improving lately (we even got around that stupid Secu-ROM). There are free alternatives to all of the Windows Live "essentials". WOW. Of all the games to mention, they mention World of Warcraft. I wrote a tutorial on how to get WoW running on Linux not to long ago. Its probably the easiest game to set up with in WINE. Authorized support? Well you have Red Hat and Canonical, oh I guess you can count Novell... Video chat with Pidgin? Or Skype? I don't have time to refute the rest, but I'll post the screenies. Learn to read-- it doesn't say no iPod support, it says limited (or few), As far as I know, WoW does not work natively on Linux.  You have to go do funyn stuff and read a tutorial like you wrote in order to get it to work. They're probably talking about things like this were you have people at places like Best Buy that must complete some sort of training. Again, learn to read.  The word you're missing here is "all." All in all, I'm not sure why you think this is so rediculous.  If you're making something to teach how to sell something to people, of course they are going to do everything in their power to make it sound more awesome than the other thing. You do realise that I didn't write any of that? I just copied and pasted from the source to save you the click (I know what some are like on these forums). You might want to go to the original link and post that to the original author and see what his response is. Are you a Microsoft employee by any chance? You sound kinda defensive over something that I only posted for a laugh

Nah he's a Terminal Reality employee.  You know, guys who made the Ghostbuster videogame.