Kojima said it wasn't to HIS satisfaction how the graphics turned out... Kojima... a well known perfectionist with his games.

Also, you said the 2005 build looks much better, which is bullcrap. And as i said, you posted a rubbish shot of Otacon.

I see this last night before I go to bed, wake up the next morning +120 posts. Jeeze.

Come on people. FFXIII is gonna freakin rock. I dunno about the validity of these _rumors_ but does it really matter? Doubt they were gonna include the JP VA anyway. Almost no JRPG NA released game includes the JP VA. The early shots were suspect to begin with, the graphics are almost always way better in those than the final product.

Even IF the graphics were downgraded, which again I'm not convinced they were downgraded rather than they were unable to bring the graphics UP to what they had envisioned in the first place.

I will buy the PS3 version and I will love it.

That comment has always made me laugh. "Its all about the gameplay". Such a load of crap. It wouldnt be the same game with different GFX. The gameplay would obviously change because the detail would not be there. Especially when you talk about going from the PS3/360 to the Wii. As for the FF downgrade, we all knew that was going to happen. That is why I wont be buying that game. 90% of the multi plat games have been crap IMO this will be no different. It really wouldnt surprise me to see 2 BD discs for the game as well. If they squeeze the game onto 2 DVDs, they will probably just split the game to two BDs to make it even. It is happening with movies already. For some reason we keep getting 2 disc BD sets when they should be able to git it all on one.

Think about it this way. In 2008, the final build of the game was released. If a screenshot from 2005, when the game was still somewhat early in development, looks arguably as good as a screenshot from the final game, then it is obviously a bullshot. Do you really think that KJP had the game looking that good in 2005, with pretty much no improvements in three years? I highly doubt it.

Judging by the screen shots, you can't really deny that it's been downgraded.

But, the graphics are still pretty good. Only thing I really care about is the story and gameplay. If those suck, then the game will suffer, not because of the graphics.

Go back and reread the WHOLE thread while I go beat my head against the wall.

Enough of this.

Are you still standing by those initial screenshots posted earlier in the thread?

Why?

CGI, check this out. Those shots aren't evidence. There are tons of variables that all of us are completely ignorant about, and clinging to them in the face of evidence to the contrary makes you seem like an ideologue, who is not attempting to understand the other side of the argument.

What we have learned so far is this:

1. Those screens initially posted aren't the final screenshots of the game.

2. The screens from 360 gameplay posted on most sites on the internet seem to indicate that the game looks much better than said cherrypicked shot indicates.

3. We are uncertain of the timeframe of the original screenshots in question, even to the point of which one was released first, due to the demo that Garnett pointed out.

4. we are unaware of the hardware from which either of those screens are pulled. We don't know that the games won't look better/worse depending on the console you buy them for. Many PS3 games look worse on the PS3. Perhaps XIII will look better.

5. We don't even know if they are both gameplay.

6. As the MGS4 mention pointed out, developers will often released worse looking screens later in the development cycle. Often, like with MGS4, those worse looking screens look better when the game is finally polished. Sometimes they don't, and sometimes the original screens were prerendered promises that were never possible, or bullshots.

What we don't know, could fill an ocean, and clinging to those shots as absolute evidence, to bash Square about the game isn't fair.

Check this out. I'm VERY glad FFXIII is on the 360 More people will get to play the game. I wish it was on the Wii as well. I don't care what sacrafices they have to make. A great game is a great game, and hair texture doesn't change that. Furthermore, to wish that a game would have stayed exclusive simply because it would give you a slightly better experience is ultimately selfish. The only valid reason one would want this game exclusively, that isn't selfish, is because its exclusivity would have been a huge boon for Sony, and a dagger in the heart of Microsoft. Instead those tables have turned, and now, you wish the game would have stayed exclusive, and feel very bitter over its refusal to do so.

I understand that.

What I don't understand, is this childish selfiishness that makes people feel they have the right to whine, because they had to give up something relatively insignificant, so that 30 million people would have the right to share the fun they are experiencing with the most anticipated game this generation.

Without some sort of Sony fandom going on in one's head, those thoughts are so selfish, they are sickening to me.

That said, there is nothing to be done. I've had my way, and I'm done. The game is coming out on the Xbox 360, and you can take it for what it is, or you can skip it, but I doubt you will. Just live well in the knowning that millions more people will derive happiness because of this move, than will loathe it.

All this little screenshot boulstering, as ignorant as we are about their origins, proves nothing, except out own ignorance. I suggest we give it a rest.

the reason i have a ps3 is because i want there games, not 360 ones! there two diffrent platforms, make the same game but take the advantage of both!
arrhh this has annoyed me alot! 360 should have its version and ps3 its

why should i bye a game that isnt even close to what it should be like? o yeh i wont

there is no way il pick up this cheap rubbish! not a chance, when the ps3 version is back to the way it should be i will!

Stop being so mean to those nail heads. They never hit you, did they?

Considering a majority of the best games this generation are mulitplatform, might I suggest that your closed mindedness and stigmatization towards multiplats is hurting you as much as it is Sony's software sales?