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Forums - Microsoft Discussion - Gears of War 2 had a $12 million development budget

daiyumn on 22 August 2009

the person above me is awesome



I am a loyal SONY fan and will always be.

I am also a PS1, PS2, PS3 and a PSP owner.

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Slimebeast on 22 August 2009
daiyumn said:
nice sig


My sig is nicer. It even has screen shots.



Munkeh111 on 22 August 2009

Yes, but it looks slightly more messy and clearly showing the weakness of the 360 line-up that you can't fill your sig!!!



Slimebeast on 22 August 2009
Munkeh111 said:
Yes, but it looks slightly more messy and clearly showing the weakness of the 360 line-up that you can't fill your sig!!!


Damn it, you may be right. How can I fix it (the messyness)?

Btw, I'd have a couple more games in it if it wasnt for the fact that the Selnor quote covers only E3 games. Maybe is time to delete his quote.



Munkeh111 on 23 August 2009

That looks nicer, though is there no other game that you could pick that actually has a box art? (KUF II)



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Cueil on 23 August 2009
MonstaMack said:
Not too surprising. Thats why sequels have little to no improvement in the graphics department, but add in extra costs for other things like Munkeh111 started for Uncharted 2. HD Games are expensive if you build a engine ground up, for if you use the same engine over and over you'll save a lot of money.


Play Gears 2 then try playing 1 and then try posting that comment again... the general feel of the game may be the same but the improvments to the engine and the characters are crazy



 
Get your Portable ID!

stika on 23 August 2009
Slimebeast said:
Munkeh111 said:
mrstickball said:
Munkeh - Every number I've seen for KZ2 has put it at, or above $40 million USD.

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/2503.html
http://www.digitalbattle.com/2006/11/28/killzone-ps3-info/

Essentially, KZ2 had, for some time, 120+ developers on the project. Also, the development time was considerably higher. Given the factors (time + developers), the minimum budget had to of been near the rumors of $40 million, if not more.

I'm not saying it is not far fetched, I just want sources. GG have 140 people, and it was 2 1/2 years between Killzone Liberation and KZ 2, and they would have had devs working on it before then, but this is just speculation. And may I point out that this GeoW 2 cost does not include the engine work that was done seperately, so if you add the 2 GeoWs together, they would probably come to KZ 2. Then again, so would the 2 Uncharteds. The fact is, GG are an inexperienced studio that created loads of new tech for this game, so they will definitely be able to develop games cheaper in the future.


140 people x 2 = 280 man years (extended over 3 years of development, 3 times 90 guys on average if you like)

Each man years costs $150,000.

Total dev cost KZ2: 280 x $150k= $42 million. That's a minimum/conservative estimation in my opinion. And marketing costs excluded of course.

Including marketing, total game creation costs: ~$60 million, so KZ2 will need to sell roughly $60 million/$30 = 2 million copies to break even.
(excluding bundled copies since they don't contribute even one dime in revenue, although bundles help selll consoles and other games of course)

don't forget, the game's publicity for europe alone was 5 million.... sony really spent a lot on this one



Slimebeast on 23 August 2009
Munkeh111 said:
That looks nicer, though is there no other game that you could pick that actually has a box art? (KUF II)


There ain't that many games (and I really want to show a beautiful KUF II screen). I was thinking Rage, since it's one of the best looking upcoming games, but I don't like the look of it's boxart that's submitted here on VGC database. I hope it's not an official one. Do you think it is?



Wandamaximoff on 23 August 2009

This is the problem! Ps3 games make such little money!!!!!

Sony made the ps3 based on it being the market leader and its being bigger than ps2! They were relying on huge volumes of games being sold making it profitable for games developers!

Such a shame!!!



Munkeh111 on 23 August 2009

I hope that is not official, it makes me want to vomit! Are you really not getting Modern Warfare 2?