What's with all the haters lately. It seems recently we have seen a lot of devs hating on both the PS3 and Wii.

Wii because it isn't powerful enough for the future and/or 3rd parties don't do well. Well, make quality games you fucktards.

PS3 because it isn't selling well and is too expensive for developing and consumers.
Well, make quality games you fucktards.

That is all that is important. Make quality games and people will flock to them. All systems have enough of a fanbase to support a quality game. You fucktards.

I think everyone hated PS2's design, they just had to go along with it because it was so successful...

Huh, so developers that only worked on pc are the biggest whiners. Maybe Cell is to advanced for them to figure out, to bad thats life you wont be great at everything.

Its all in good fun. XD for everybody but PS3 owners and Sony fans, of course. I think he is right to a degree. With the PS2 selling so well even today and the Blu-ray vs. HD DVD war still raging, Sony shouldn't have released the PS3 when they did and should have evaluated their position better. Obviously what they have done is not the best solution for them.

The Wii is that it has had a flood of 3rd party support -- perhaps so much that it has outgrown its installed base.  Consider that in October/November this year the Wii is getting more than 100 titles. That's just two months. It is a very crowded market.

Making a quality game isn't easy and the PS3 doesn't do you any favors. Look at top devs like Factor 5. Lair was delayed several times and turned out to be a shitheap. If it was so easy to make quality games, there'd be much less risk. The issue with the PS3, in particular, is that the architecture is hard to work with and you have to make sacrifices you wouldn't have to make on the 360. Making games is very costly, plus the installed base is low which means your game is unlikely to recoup high costs, even if it is a high quality game (See: Virtual Fighter 5).

This is why so many devs have been moving development toward the 360 or Wii. Sure, the Wii is crowded and its future may seem uncertain to some of the developers who look at the game market different than casual gamers, but development costs a lot less and has the greatest potential on the Wii right now.

Nintendo has a trump card that niether Sony nor Microsoft have and they could use it to drastically improve sales if they so choose. The Wii has yet to see its first price drop and costs significantly less to manufacture than its current market price. This means that Nintendo could drop the Wii to $199 or even less if they so wanted and it would increase sales significantly. Further, the Wii doesn't have the advantage of maturity that the 360 does with its first games that are both top-quality and have a wide-audience appeal coming out at the end of this year and early next year.

"There’s nothing there that you’re going to apply to anything else."

THAT'S the key to his comments. He's just reacting to the fact that the work on the Cell is so far on one device, that is selling below expectations.

If the Cell picks up in a few years, the way multi-core processing did, then investment in the Cell will be worth it.

Yet RIGHT NOW, the Cell needs a lot of work to fit all the data it can generate in the PS3's relatively small memory.

 This is true. Gabe has also hated on the 360, DX10 and vista, so feel free to cliam hes biased.

You seem to misunderstand the problem with the Cell.  The problem isn't that it's too powerful for the PS3's memory, but that it's not as powerful as the 360's processor for gaming.  The cell can generate a lot of throughput if you feed it very specific algorithms, but for most gaming algorithms it holds the PS3 back.  The Cell as Sony originally envisioned it was twice as capable for gaming (general purpose CPU two cores instead of one). 

The way computer technology advances, if the Cell was going to pick up in a few years, we would already be seeing high-end setups pushing towards that, but we aren't.