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Snesboy said:

Mario Kart Wii has motorcycles. Smash Brawl has Sonic. Project HAMMER has been cancelled. Disaster Day of Crisis looks like crap. Brawl is delayed.

 

Is this really a good time to be a Nintendo fan? HELL NO!

I must be the only one who thinks that Sonic in Brawl is a bad idea. Why? Just look at ALL of his games since 2001. They have been complete and utter crap. The last good Sonic game was Sonic Adventure. While there have been a few exceptions over the past  6 years (Sonic and The Secret Rings and Sonic Rush for Wii and DS respectively) there really hasn't been anything good from Sonic Team.

 Granted, most people would ignore this fact considering that everyone has wanted to pit Mario against Sonic since the Genesis days. But I feel that Sonic in Brawl would just tarnish the games image. Sure most people won't even realize it until they have bought it, but that doesn't matter because Nintendo already made a profit off the game.

 

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html 

 

Next Point:

 

Mario Kart Wii. Honestly, they get rid of the excellent two characters per kart from Double Dash!! and replace it with motorcycles? That is just lame!  I just don't like the idea of motorcycles in the game. Sure it's neat but as a legitimate vehicle? No way. I wish they kept the double characters in a kart from the GCN edition of Mario Kart. If they don't fix that damn "snaking" bullshit, then I am going to be super mad. I think that "snaking" stuff is cheap, in DD!! you had to be a good driver and skilled with items in order to win.

 

http://www.jeux-france.com/news22177_mario-kart-wii-avec-des-motos-.html 

 

Third Point:

 

Why did they cancel Project HAMMER? That game looked awesome. It looked like so much fun!!! Anyone else agree with me?

 

Fourth Point:

 

I don't know if you have seen the new screenshots for Disaster but they look like an early GameCube game. They are honestly that bad. I hope the graphics shape up in time for final release (like what happened with Prime 3 and how they got super good a month before it came out). But I worry about the graphics if those represent the final game (which they probably won't). From the other things I have seen from the game though, it looks really neat.

 

 http://www.jeux-france.com/news22181_disaster-day-of-crisis-se-devoile.html

 

Last Point:

 

I don't know if you noticed, but the release date for SSBB has changed from December 3, 2007 to TBD.  I would worry about the development if I were you.

 

Snesboy 

 


Sorry if this has all been covered, but I haven't read anyone elses post.

First point:  You're complaining that Sonic is in Brawl? He's a major mascot. Pit's in Brawl and he's only been in two games. That seems like a really weird thing to be angered about.

Second Point: The option of two wheelers is pissing you off? I can understand feelings ranging from cool to who cares, but to actually be angered by it is silly

Third Point: You ever watch the Project Hammer videos? Did you notice how stupidly repetative the game looked? I was neither suprised nor saddened.

Fourth point: This is the first point to have any substance to it. Disaster's graphics look like a mixed bag so far. City blocks and weather look great, but character models, trees and that cab not so much. I think this is one we just need to wait to see in motion to judge

Last Point: Brawl's release date. If it's delayed it sucks for brawl fans, but it doesn't really say anything about Nintendo. It actually makes a lot of sense for them to do it. As it will mean a major game during what tends  to be the slowest period of the year

 

In conclusion, weird thread dude. Weird thread indeed.



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Just some thoughts.

Nintendo's new directions is selling consoles and games that people -- not just gamers -- want. That is something that a lot of gamers -- and game analysts -- have had a hard time figuring out.

As for SNESboy's points, I have to disagree with some.

I never quite figured out why there were two people on your kart in the GC version. So the bikes are fine with me.

I am deflated by the delay of Brawl. But I got goose bumbs seeing Sonic's scenes. He has gone from "urban legend" (in Melee) to actually being there. And that is a good thing.

On other matters, I want the games to be right (so late is better than rushed). Also, a HD device will have to come the Wii's way -- even if it is just a firmware update to recognize external USB drives. (Of course, you can always play the SD card swap game).

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I don't understand why you are complaining. Sonic in Brawl has made my purchase of a Wii certain, and well the other points don't make much sense *shrugs*



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I always get confused when people change avatars.



DonWii said:
^Ah. Previous Kratos avatar, right?

I always get confused when people change avatars.

yea that's me. The other guy (makingmusic? or w/e) had the same one so I just decided to change it. Vivi is awesome, too.



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DonWii said:
^Ah. Previous Kratos avatar, right?

I always get confused when people change avatars.

Me too



Snesboy said:

Mario Kart Wii has motorcycles. Smash Brawl has Sonic. Project HAMMER has been cancelled. Disaster Day of Crisis looks like crap. Brawl is delayed.

 

Is this really a good time to be a Nintendo fan? HELL NO!

I must be the only one who thinks that Sonic in Brawl is a bad idea. Why? Just look at ALL of his games since 2001. They have been complete and utter crap. The last good Sonic game was Sonic Adventure. While there have been a few exceptions over the past  6 years (Sonic and The Secret Rings and Sonic Rush for Wii and DS respectively) there really hasn't been anything good from Sonic Team.

 Granted, most people would ignore this fact considering that everyone has wanted to pit Mario against Sonic since the Genesis days. But I feel that Sonic in Brawl would just tarnish the games image. Sure most people won't even realize it until they have bought it, but that doesn't matter because Nintendo already made a profit off the game.

 

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html 

 

Next Point:

 

Mario Kart Wii. Honestly, they get rid of the excellent two characters per kart from Double Dash!! and replace it with motorcycles? That is just lame!  I just don't like the idea of motorcycles in the game. Sure it's neat but as a legitimate vehicle? No way. I wish they kept the double characters in a kart from the GCN edition of Mario Kart. If they don't fix that damn "snaking" bullshit, then I am going to be super mad. I think that "snaking" stuff is cheap, in DD!! you had to be a good driver and skilled with items in order to win.

 

http://www.jeux-france.com/news22177_mario-kart-wii-avec-des-motos-.html 

 

Third Point:

 

Why did they cancel Project HAMMER? That game looked awesome. It looked like so much fun!!! Anyone else agree with me?

 

Fourth Point:

 

I don't know if you have seen the new screenshots for Disaster but they look like an early GameCube game. They are honestly that bad. I hope the graphics shape up in time for final release (like what happened with Prime 3 and how they got super good a month before it came out). But I worry about the graphics if those represent the final game (which they probably won't). From the other things I have seen from the game though, it looks really neat.

 

 http://www.jeux-france.com/news22181_disaster-day-of-crisis-se-devoile.html

 

Last Point:

 

I don't know if you noticed, but the release date for SSBB has changed from December 3, 2007 to TBD.  I would worry about the development if I were you.

 

Snesboy 

 


First point: The quality of Sonic games has nothing to do with Sonic. It has to do with the design teams. SSBB is Nintendo from the ground up. There is next to nothing that this game has in common with the Sonic franchise except the main character. This will no more be like another Sonic game than SSBM was a game and watch game.

Second point: So you like the motorcycles, but don't want them as legitimate vehicles? Then what do you want them as? Speed bumps? As for the double character thing, it was fun, but it was also done. I don't think it should have become a permanant fixture of the series. I'm glad they're trying something new.

Third point: Games get canned/shelved all the time. Figure they invested many, many thousands of dollars into the game. They wouldn't shit can it for no reason. Don't go just by how it looked - you didn't play the game. You don't know how good or bad the thing really was.

 Fourth point: Huh. A Wii game with GameCube graphics. Color me surprised. Even so, it is an early build. I recall many people being unimpressed with early shots of MP3 too. Wait to see it real, live, and fininshed before rendering a verdict. And whatever happened to gameplay being more important than looks (you know, the company motto)?

Fifth point: Nintendo delayed a game? Gee, alert the media. If you compiled 2 lists of all Nintendo games, the "delivered on time" list would be far, far shorter than the "delayed" list. If you are the Nintendo fan you claim to be, you would know this is not only SOP, but in the long run will result in a better gaming experience.

 



999301573 said:
DonWii said:
^Ah. Previous Kratos avatar, right?

I always get confused when people change avatars.

Me too


 I thought you were the Middle Finger Avatar....



Snesboy said:

 If they don't fix that damn "snaking" bullshit, then I am going to be super mad. I think that "snaking" stuff is cheap, in DD!! you had to be a good driver and skilled with items in order to win.

 


 (seeing that this was updated) Double WTF?, In Mario Kart DS that was a good feature and even though some idiots like you think its unfair, its the best way to rack up the best ghosst times. Good driver i agree with you, but skilled with items, come on you can do barely anything with the bananas and you don't want to stay in 1st place the whole time b/c you're gonna get screwed with the blue shell. 



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Sales Predictions (+-.5mil) at end of fiscal 2007

Wii- 23 million- Brawl will hopefully make it higher.
360-20 million- GTA IV's release date will be a big factor
PS3- 12 million- Same as 360, MGS4 also big factor

 

 

Snesboy said:
stupid post.


That's for sure...



 

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