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Naum on 07 August 2009

Let's just say that it need to be the best selling game on PS360 to even have chance of making profit.



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JEDE3 on 07 August 2009
Naum said:
Let's just say that it need to be the best selling game on PS360 to even have chance of making profit.

Doubt it.

Seraphic_Sixaxis on 07 August 2009

Final Fantasy XIII will be the end of Square Enix.



outlawauron on 07 August 2009
Seraphic_Sixaxis said:
Final Fantasy XIII will be the end of Square Enix.

Stop saying silly things like this. It makes you look silly.



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luvtospooge on 07 August 2009

70million is more likely, and they will still make profit. Because Japan are Final Fantasy nuts.



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jammy2211 on 07 August 2009
JEDE3 said:
jammy2211 said:
Retailers pay $48 for a $60 RRP game.

Source - Invisible Walls episode 66.

Saw a small debate on that, not sure if there are any sources that conflict with that figure? Also I'd assume SE arn't going to pay full royalties, as they would have got something from Sony for Japan exclusivity and something from Microsoft for porting the game? That's just speculation though so should be ignored :P.

There'll be a collections edition to bring in some extra money though.

I have a question for you. Maybe you can do it right. If the consumer is buying a game for less than 60 dollars does that mean it's because the retailer paid less for it?

 For later shipments the retailer may buy the games for less then $48 if the initial sales are a let down. That's up for negotiation between the retailer and publisher - and depends on their stock of used copys.

 There are cases where the retailer will order say 200000 copies of a game for $48, sell only 150000 at $60 and sell the rest at a loss. It's generally accepted that retailers don't make a great deal of their profit from selling new games as they lose money due to games flopping and over ordering - but they make most their profits from used games sales.



JEDE3 on 07 August 2009
jammy2211 said:
JEDE3 said:
jammy2211 said:
Retailers pay $48 for a $60 RRP game.

Source - Invisible Walls episode 66.

Saw a small debate on that, not sure if there are any sources that conflict with that figure? Also I'd assume SE arn't going to pay full royalties, as they would have got something from Sony for Japan exclusivity and something from Microsoft for porting the game? That's just speculation though so should be ignored :P.

There'll be a collections edition to bring in some extra money though.

I have a question for you. Maybe you can do it right. If the consumer is buying a game for less than 60 dollars does that mean it's because the retailer paid less for it?

 For later shipments the retailer may buy the games for less then $48 if the initial sales are a let down. That's up for negotiation between the retailer and publisher - and depends on their stock of used copys.

 There are cases where the retailer will order say 200000 copies of a game for $48, sell only 150000 at $60 and sell the rest at a loss. It's generally accepted that retailers don't make a great deal of their profit from selling new games as they lose money due to games flopping and over ordering - but they make most their profits from used games sales.


Slime beast should read this post. He is finding out the average of how much the retailer pays for a game by using how much consumers pay for it. Which that logic is all wrong.

Mr Khan on 07 August 2009

I would say no, except for the facts of delays and the big change that came in well after the project was well underway (to say that they perhaps didn't make that choice until 2008, or even late 2007, that would still be very far in)



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Slimebeast on 07 August 2009
JEDE3 said:
jammy2211 said:
JEDE3 said:
jammy2211 said:
Retailers pay $48 for a $60 RRP game.

Source - Invisible Walls episode 66.

Saw a small debate on that, not sure if there are any sources that conflict with that figure? Also I'd assume SE arn't going to pay full royalties, as they would have got something from Sony for Japan exclusivity and something from Microsoft for porting the game? That's just speculation though so should be ignored :P.

There'll be a collections edition to bring in some extra money though.

I have a question for you. Maybe you can do it right. If the consumer is buying a game for less than 60 dollars does that mean it's because the retailer paid less for it?

 For later shipments the retailer may buy the games for less then $48 if the initial sales are a let down. That's up for negotiation between the retailer and publisher - and depends on their stock of used copys.

 There are cases where the retailer will order say 200000 copies of a game for $48, sell only 150000 at $60 and sell the rest at a loss. It's generally accepted that retailers don't make a great deal of their profit from selling new games as they lose money due to games flopping and over ordering - but they make most their profits from used games sales.

Slime beast should read this post. He is finding out the average of how much the retailer pays for a game by using how much consumers pay for it. Which that logic is all wrong.

It's better to do it that way, than to have a poster come here and tell he works in Gamestop claiming their wholesale price for PS360 games is $50, and you will take that as gospel because it fits yuor agenda (while in reality the guy isn't looking at the whole picture, that there are games they get for cheaper, that he's only refering the price for completely new games, and forgetting that they get cheaper over time, especially if the game sold badly).

Also, small retailers pay more than Walmart, Bestbuy, Amazon and other online stores.



JEDE3 on 07 August 2009

lol... okay slime just keep pulling your information from your ass. youre good at that.