I didn't get a chance to read the entire thread, I'll do that when I get the chance.

I really like that idea aswell, instead of putting so much in the front page, just put sales as a big part of the front page then the rest like you said news and games can have there own seperate page.

I come for most of the gaming news and Rolstoppable. I would come for more discussions, but hey you know. Internet + Anonymity = ?.

I come to VGC because it has the most intelligent mature community I've ever seen on a videogame website. Great reviews, great news, and the most in depth sales information I've ever seen.

Just answering the poll in this thread: I came to this site for sales figures and only that. Now, I've beel lurking/posting for some time now and I like the community, so no harm in psoting threads with games news, etc... But I did feel with the change to 2.0, sales to a back seat.

I feel this site should be sales oriented first and foremost.

Must say that it has been several weeks now that I feel the site has found a good rythm again (probably due to sales numbers being more interesting with the big Nintendo releases of the past weeks: DQ9, WSR and now MH3).

Anyway, Brett keep up the good work. This IS my video game site (along with www.gamekult.com as it is French and I like their reviews).

This site was discussed on Slashdot recently as a typical example of a site bringing itself down with too much bloat. I can only agree; with the sales figures now buried between other content and the site being so slow it often doesn't load at all, I enjoy it much less than before the redesign and therefore visit less frequently. Also, and this is subjective, the new design looks worse than the old one: a bit depressing and too generic really. In any case, way too cluttered.

Splitting off the sales figures in a separate site seems like a good idea if it'll make that site lighter again. Though I would like to keep reading news about upcoming games - that's relevant to sales after all. With a better design, it could be combined. Right now, the very latest news is only accessible through that annoying flash headline flipper which forces you to wait - that's just bad design.

Now, let me first say that I have the stomach to criticise a bit because I love this site.

Core, yes. Focus is very important. The unique thing of VGC is the sales info - no other site comes close to this! The game database closely tied to sales numbers is awesome. (sadly ioi u are alone in updating sales numbers, which means due to time constrains many games have outdated sales numbers, even many big games need sales updates asap. But the other info in the database updates a lot more reliably, like release dates, screenshots (thanks the the big team helping I suppose).

 Let other things grow slowly and only implement if they truly bring something valuable, because I already think VGC has expanded a bit too quickly on the expense of quality. 

For example, there should be a guy filtering out the worthless news. Since 2.0 there's been lots of un-interesting news posted. Some examples:

Xbox LIVE Summer Update- The Details General News Carl Rushworth With less then a week until the Xbox LIVE Summer Update, we have a look at whats in store for Xbox 360 users. 05th Aug 2009 | 691 views, 7 comments

	Microsoft to Reduce Game Installs With Upcoming Update General News Xavier Griffiths The big Xbox 360 update is only a week away, but what makes it bigger, is the smaller install time. 04th Aug 2009 | 1,088 views, 11 comments

	Gran Turismo PSP Pre-order Bonus Revealed General News Seth Pinter Pre-order Gran Turismo, and you’ll get a voucher that will add one of the top cars to your in-game collection of cars in an exclusive color. Five to choose from. 04th Aug 2009 | 815 views, 18 comments

	TMNT: Turtles In Time Re-Shelled Launch Trailer General News Gabriel Franco Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Turtles In Time Re-Shelled is going to be available tomorrow on XBL for 800 Microsoft points. 04th Aug 2009 | 213 views, 3 comments
	Xbox Live Activity For Week Of July 27th General News Carl Rushworth Major nelson has revealed the top played titles on Xbox Live for the week of July 27th. 04th Aug 2009 | 291 views, 2 co Two More Games Added to PS3 Greatest Hits Line-Up General News Seb Parker THQ´s Saints Row 2 and Smackdown vs Raw join the PlayStation 3´s Greatest Hits series of reduced-price games. 04th Aug 2009 | 1,045 views, 8 comments mments   This week in Rhythm Games General News Patrick Maxwell DLC for all actively updated games across all consoles. 04th Aug 2009 | 255 views, 0 comments Deca Sports Price Dropped To Just $19.99 General News Gabriel Franco To celebrate the sequel's Fall release, Deca Sports is now selling for just $19.99. 03rd Aug 2009 | 477 views, 8 comments   Nintendo Mii's Also Usable In Guitar Hero 5 General News Carl Rushworth Activision have stated that you will be able to rock out with your Mii's in 'Mii Freestyle Mode' 03rd Aug 2009 | 564 views, 7 comments XBL Deal Of The Week: R-Type Dimensions At 800 Points General News Gabriel Franco Xbox LIVE Gold Members can now save 33% if they purchase R-Type Dimensions this week. Normally 1200 points, R-Type is the lastest Deal of the Week at 800 points. 03rd Aug 2009 | 220 views, 6 comments American DSi Owners To Get Facebook Fuctionality Tonight General News Gabriel Franco Nintendo of America announced that North American DSi owners will be able to upload photos to their Facebook accounts when the new system update goes live around 5PM PST. 03rd Aug 2009 | 311 views, 4 comments New Releases on Nintendo Download Services in America (8/03/09) General News Gabriel Franco The first M-rated WiiWare game was released today. 03rd Aug 2009 | 1,163 views, 24 comments     The list is endless. IMO these dont belong on a front page. The good news are drowned in this flood of useless niche information. I dont know if these examples are 'general news' or 'original articles', all I know is that I stumble upon these too often, so lately I have stopped watching the news articles almost completely and rely on the forums instead or other sites for important gaming news.

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I think vgChartz could put out a news article on the mating of hamsters and get 500-1000 views.  Stricter guidelines about what is and isn't newsworthy would be welcome.

@ slimebeast

News that doesn't appeal to you isn't worthless news. How is an XBL update, key functionality to the DSi, and new releases on online channels worthless?