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@Ironman: The problem that's going to blow out your warranty, is that you've changed the ECU. If the genuine worked as it should have (which however isn't necessarily how the customer thought it would work), there's no reason to replace it.

It doesn't matter whether you chip it or change the ECU, since the product itself is the engine control program.
And, those aftermarket ECU:s have to have somekind of a licence from the manufacturer.



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bdbdbd said:
@Ironman: The problem that's going to blow out your warranty, is that you've changed the ECU. If the genuine worked as it should have (which however isn't necessarily how the customer thought it would work), there's no reason to replace it.

It doesn't matter whether you chip it or change the ECU, since the product itself is the engine control program.
And, those aftermarket ECU:s have to have somekind of a licence from the manufacturer.


See, now you are confusing me, first you talk about changing the ECU, then you talk about chipping it as if that were somehow relevant to the MS argument. The fact of the matter is, this has nothing to do with the computer market since they are both very different animals.

If you must use the ECU argument, As long as you put in an aftermarket ECU with OEM values, you can use any replacement ECU without having to worry about voiding the warranty. If you chip it, (some chips actually don't void the warranty either) then, yes, you do void the warranty. That is mainly due to the fact that most chips are user tuned. and if you don't know what you are doing, it is really easy to destroy your engine.

 



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NightstrikerX said:
Yeah, Microsoft entered because of Sony Domination. Ironically though, it wasn't Microsoft who beat Sony. Nintendo managed to turn the tables around all on their own. But there are plenty of benefits of having the xbox 360 around so it's good to see them in the console race regardless.


If Microsoft never entered the console market things would be very different. See those 30million Xbox 360 owners. I'm sure that 30million would be added to the Playstation 3's total plus more since most Microsoft exclusives would be on the Playstation instead.



kiefer23 said:
NightstrikerX said:
Yeah, Microsoft entered because of Sony Domination. Ironically though, it wasn't Microsoft who beat Sony. Nintendo managed to turn the tables around all on their own. But there are plenty of benefits of having the xbox 360 around so it's good to see them in the console race regardless.


If Microsoft never entered the console market things would be very different. See those 30million Xbox 360 owners. I'm sure that 30million would be added to the Playstation 3's total plus more since most Microsoft exclusives would be on the Playstation instead.


If MS hadn't enter entered the console wars, I would not be a gamer right now.



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@Ironman: Well yes, using the manufacturer program code shouldn't void the warranty. But what's the idea of changing it in the first place then?

Also, you were the one who started arguing about the matter. And it was your argument, that changing to a 3rd party ECU would give option to the customer. Otherwise, it doesn't relate to the discussion.

@Kiefer: Well, not necessarily. Notice for example the Madden sales on 360? This is excactly the group that people are saying Wii is having, it's the "casual" or traditionally non-gaming audience. 360 offers the the cheapest way to experience the american football. Then again, GTA4 sold great on both systems, another game of "casual" appeal, so there's a userbase on PS3 too.
But, PS3 would likely gain more of the lack of 360, but also without 360, PS3 would likely have a lot less games.



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bdbdbd said:
@Ironman: Well yes, using the manufacturer program code shouldn't void the warranty. But what's the idea of changing it in the first place then?

there is none, other than perhaps the OE stopped working. In the computer realm, you rPC warrenty is hardware based, you can change the OS any time you want, also, if you don't like the tuning your car has, buy a differant car. I already posted the definition of a Monopoly, do I need to do it again?


Also, you were the one who started arguing about the matter. And it was your argument, that changing to a 3rd party ECU would give option to the customer. Otherwise, it doesn't relate to the discussion.

It does, not as far as the tuning goes because unlike PCs, cars are designed to run with a certain tuning that the manufacturer sets. With PCs, you can change your OS, not void any warrenty, and the PC will still run the way it was intended without breaking any smog laws, or cause any permanent damage.

 



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Squilliam said:
Mono = one.

Therefore you fools, Microsoft is a monopoly.

The Mac is not a PC, Lunux is not viable in the consumer space.

Google = Monopoly
Sony = was at a near monopolistic level using some pretty vicious tactics of price cuts to essentially try to drive out competition.
Console = Oligopoly/Monopolistic competition (hard to say)

I can't sleep.

Ask your friend Oli Gopoly to give you some medication.



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ironman said:
kiefer23 said:
NightstrikerX said:
Yeah, Microsoft entered because of Sony Domination. Ironically though, it wasn't Microsoft who beat Sony. Nintendo managed to turn the tables around all on their own. But there are plenty of benefits of having the xbox 360 around so it's good to see them in the console race regardless.


If Microsoft never entered the console market things would be very different. See those 30million Xbox 360 owners. I'm sure that 30million would be added to the Playstation 3's total plus more since most Microsoft exclusives would be on the Playstation instead.


If MS hadn't enter entered the console wars, I would not be a gamer right now.


and this web site would be peaceful place with no trolls :)

 

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