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bdbdbd on 25 June 2009
Kenology said:






waron said:
SSBB is the only game that is using DVD9 so far, but i think both Metroid Prime Trilogy and Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles might use one.

Why would those two games use DVD9?  I think MPT will fit on a standard size disc.  There's no real space whores (CG or extensive voice work) to hoard space.  FFCC, I just don't see why it would.  Though it would be great for it and the next Zelda to use it just to fill up that space with more content in the form of more areas to explore.




Because Corruption takes one layer in full? MP&MP2 are likely 2-3 GB together, so that wouldn't leave much for MP3 anyway.

S-E likes to fill discs with lots of CGI.

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bdbdbd on 25 June 2009

@Exblackman: Not two, the discs were roughly 1,5GB.



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thetonestarr on 25 June 2009

Metroid Prime 3 takes up most of a single disc, while Primes 1 & 2 both took an entire Gamecube disc.

That's like 7-8 gigs already. And I think I recall them cleaning up 1 & 2 a bit graphically, so they'd take up more space as well.



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averyblund on 25 June 2009

DL-DVD will be rare for the Wii forever thanks to some inconsistency in the Wii's ability to access the media. Many Wii's struggle with DL discs.



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largedarryl on 25 June 2009
averyblund said:
DL-DVD will be rare for the Wii forever thanks to some inconsistency in the Wii's ability to access the media. Many Wii's struggle with DL discs.

Oh really?  Source?



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volrath50 on 25 June 2009
thekitchensink said:
As others have said, only Brawl so far. Metroid Prime Trilogy will be the next one, since Prime 3 almost took up 5 gigs on its' own, and the first two are at least a gig each, probably more.

Yeah, because the GC used mini-discs (basically, DVDs with the outer rim chopped off), they could only be, at max, 1.5GB. I think it was sort of silly for Nintendo to go with the mini-DVDs (no matter how cute they are, and how much I love the look of them). Thankfully, the restricted space doesn't really seem to have hurt the GC.

 

I'm hoping that with the expanded space, they up the texture resolutions, and such, for MPT. I imagine they have gigantic high-rez textures for MP1 and MP2 somewhere, so it should just be a matter of compressing them so they *just* fit on the disc, other technical constraints (loading, bandwidth) nothwithstanding.



dahuman on 25 June 2009
Chrizum said:
According to the noise my Wii makes, Call of Duty: World at War might also be dual layered.

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Barozi on 26 June 2009
largedarryl said:
averyblund said:
DL-DVD will be rare for the Wii forever thanks to some inconsistency in the Wii's ability to access the media. Many Wii's struggle with DL discs.

Oh really?  Source?

I think he means this:

"For the Wii, Nintendo extended the technology to use a full size 12-cm, 4.7/8.54 GB DVD-based disc (RVL-006), enabling it to have the benefits of the Nintendo GameCube Game Disc, while having the standard capacity of a double-layer DVD-ROM. Although the Wii can utilize double-layer discs, all titles were single-layer up until the release of Super Smash Bros. Brawl. With the release of Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Nintendo has admitted that some Wii systems may have trouble reading dual-layer discs due to a dirty laser lens. Nintendo repaired systems with dual-layer problems, and later released a disc cleaning kit for users to purchase."

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_optical_discs



SnesTea on 26 June 2009
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Brawl is the only one so far, but Metroid Prime Trilogy has been confirmed to be on a dual-layered disc.

There would be no way they could cram all three games (The first to Prime games are a total of like 3 GBs) on one disc. And Metroid Prime 3 is like at least the size of the first two (like around 3 GBs) so they would need to use a DL-DVD.



dahuman on 26 June 2009
Snesboy said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Brawl is the only one so far, but Metroid Prime Trilogy has been confirmed to be on a dual-layered disc.

There would be no way they could cram all three games (The first to Prime games are a total of like 3 GBs) on one disc. And Metroid Prime 3 is like at least the size of the first two (like around 3 GBs) so they would need to use a DL-DVD.

they can if it's redone to share the same engine, textures and effects etc on top of compression, rest are all just levels and different weapons and perhaps physics rule mods for each game. though tbh I think it's dual layer DVD because Prime 3 fills almost the whole single layer already.