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Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Bingoo said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
.S.T.A.G.E. said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
S.T.A.G.E., stop embarrassing yourself. I feel sorry for you, and I don't like feeling sorry for people.


I'm in a debate. Calm down, would you?

... What in god's name could have possibly suggested to you that I am not calm?


I'm not the only one in the debate, and this debate isn't with you. Besides, what is there to feel sorry about? We're just talking out our differences in games. I love the heat of debate and thats why I involve myself in it, win or lose. 9Chiba obviously insists on proving to me that Nintendo in some form or fashion is focused on the hardcore...which is somewhat Shia's argument. I agree with Shia's statement, quite franly. What you should feel sorry about, is Nintendo fanboys getting defensive and using ad homenim attacks on a pretty good actor who isn't here to defend himself. It should be impressive enough that there is even an actor who likes to game and is within the age group of most of us. 

Oh, there's lots to feel sorry about, considering you're saying that platformers aren't hardcore. Regarding attacks on Shia, I'm not going to comment either way, because I think he has it coming to him for being so unbelievably rude and mean about it.

The fact that you agree with Shia's statement makes me feel even more sorry for you, because it is by far the most ignorant thing I have seen on these boards. Ever. And I'd like to believe that you, somewhere deep down, know that for yourself as well. I really would.

You cant attack stage without attacking the person hes debating

honostly i feel more sad for him.

 

He lists a couple of games not even on the system. He calls gow a button masher...

if your going to attack him u have to attack the person he argueing with.

Dont just attack stage cause hes against your opinion

You're essentially telling me that if I'm going to post in a thread I need to be on both sides, and can't be on one side, which makes no sense whatsoever. Good job.

Also, I'm not attacking anyone for being against my opinion, I'm saying it's embarassing to see someone be so unyieldingly convinced that platformers aren't hardcore. If there's one genre in gaming that's hardcore, it's -- You guessed it -- platformers. Castlevania, Ninja Gaiden, Mega Man, hell, even Zelda 2 which most people say is the hardest of the series (much of it because it incorporates platformer elements. I guess next we'll start hearing that comedy movies aren't meant to be funny.


He never asked you to "be on both sides". He asked you to be fair and talk to both of us rather than just singling me out, because you don't agree with me. If you actually read what I wrote, as well, you will notice that where I was going, pertaining to platformers. You would've noticed that I think that platformers technically aren't hardcore, because they are created for a "pick up and play" gaming style. Any game that has the "pick up and play" style, is a casual game. Hardcore games are titles thats gameplay actually has to be explored, which casuals will usually ignore. Platformers are hardcore in the respect, that Mario is the face of Nintendo and actually has fans. Gameplay-wise it is still a pick up and play game, unless you're playing Mario RPG. Mario is supposed to be the fundamental title that picks up the younger generations. He's the face of my younger days and yours, I'm sure. Zelda isn't casual and neither is Metroid. That cannot be picked up easily, like Mario. You have to become at least a moderate gamer to play that game.



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Amateur console?

He really need to play some Nintendo games beacuse those are anything but "amateur".



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Bingoo said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
.S.T.A.G.E. said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
S.T.A.G.E., stop embarrassing yourself. I feel sorry for you, and I don't like feeling sorry for people.


I'm in a debate. Calm down, would you?

... What in god's name could have possibly suggested to you that I am not calm?


I'm not the only one in the debate, and this debate isn't with you. Besides, what is there to feel sorry about? We're just talking out our differences in games. I love the heat of debate and thats why I involve myself in it, win or lose. 9Chiba obviously insists on proving to me that Nintendo in some form or fashion is focused on the hardcore...which is somewhat Shia's argument. I agree with Shia's statement, quite franly. What you should feel sorry about, is Nintendo fanboys getting defensive and using ad homenim attacks on a pretty good actor who isn't here to defend himself. It should be impressive enough that there is even an actor who likes to game and is within the age group of most of us. 

Oh, there's lots to feel sorry about, considering you're saying that platformers aren't hardcore. Regarding attacks on Shia, I'm not going to comment either way, because I think he has it coming to him for being so unbelievably rude and mean about it.

The fact that you agree with Shia's statement makes me feel even more sorry for you, because it is by far the most ignorant thing I have seen on these boards. Ever. And I'd like to believe that you, somewhere deep down, know that for yourself as well. I really would.

You cant attack stage without attacking the person hes debating

honostly i feel more sad for him.

 

He lists a couple of games not even on the system. He calls gow a button masher...

if your going to attack him u have to attack the person he argueing with.

Dont just attack stage cause hes against your opinion

You're essentially telling me that if I'm going to post in a thread I need to be on both sides, and can't be on one side, which makes no sense whatsoever. Good job.

Also, I'm not attacking anyone for being against my opinion, I'm saying it's embarassing to see someone be so unyieldingly convinced that platformers aren't hardcore. If there's one genre in gaming that's hardcore, it's -- You guessed it -- platformers. Castlevania, Ninja Gaiden, Mega Man, hell, even Zelda 2 which most people say is the hardest of the series (much of it because it incorporates platformer elements. I guess next we'll start hearing that comedy movies aren't meant to be funny.


He never asked you to "be on both sides". He asked you to be fair and talk to both of us rather than just singling me out, because you don't agree with me.

But that makes no sense. My dispute with this thread is that you're making me feel sorry for you by saying that platformers aren't hardcore. Why would I want to argue against someone else about something that has no relation to that? I don't care if he called some game a buttonmasher or said some other game isn't a buttonmasher, my annoyance here is that you're saying platformers "don't count" as hardcore games. It's awfully odd to insist that I should comment on everything everyone says, instead of only the things I dispute.



S.T.A.G.E. said:

I'm not the only one in the debate, and this debate isn't with you. Besides, what is there to feel sorry about? We're just talking out our differences in games. I love the heat of debate and thats why I involve myself in it, win or lose. 9Chiba obviously insists on proving to me that Nintendo in some form or fashion is focused on the hardcore...which is somewhat Shia's argument. I agree with Shia's statement, quite franly. What you should feel sorry about, is Nintendo fanboys getting defensive and using ad homenim attacks on a pretty good actor who isn't here to defend himself. It should be impressive enough that there is even an actor who likes to game and is within the age group of most of us. 

"I don't mess with the Wii, to be honest with you. It's kind of an amateur console. I'm not into the Wii thing."

I'm assuming you mean this statement? I don't think people really mind about that one, so much. The thing everyone seems to be bitching about is this:

"This is how in a simple way you can find out if it's a gamer you want to play with. Ask them if they have a Wii. If they say yes, get the f*** out of there."

That part isn't really an opinion, it's an insult. It isn't directed at the Wii games, it's directed at its owners. I don't see how retaliation (ad hominem attacks) would be uncalled for at that point.

Anybody who defends that particular quote is either being a troll, or is just ignorant. Personally, I don't mind it since he's not someone I care about, and I know the comment wasn't serious (it came more from his anti-Wii fanboyism, I say similar ignorant things when joking with friends). Some people are more into the proper public image (maturity, manners or whatever), they're the ones who'd obviously get upset...



c0rd said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

I'm not the only one in the debate, and this debate isn't with you. Besides, what is there to feel sorry about? We're just talking out our differences in games. I love the heat of debate and thats why I involve myself in it, win or lose. 9Chiba obviously insists on proving to me that Nintendo in some form or fashion is focused on the hardcore...which is somewhat Shia's argument. I agree with Shia's statement, quite franly. What you should feel sorry about, is Nintendo fanboys getting defensive and using ad homenim attacks on a pretty good actor who isn't here to defend himself. It should be impressive enough that there is even an actor who likes to game and is within the age group of most of us. 

"I don't mess with the Wii, to be honest with you. It's kind of an amateur console. I'm not into the Wii thing."

I'm assuming you mean this statement? I don't think people really mind about that one, so much. The thing everyone seems to be bitching about is this:

"This is how in a simple way you can find out if it's a gamer you want to play with. Ask them if they have a Wii. If they say yes, get the f*** out of there."

That part isn't really an opinion, it's an insult. It isn't directed at the Wii games, it's directed at its owners. I don't see how retaliation (ad hominem attacks) would be uncalled for at that point.

Anybody who defends that particular quote is either being a troll, or is just ignorant. Personally, I don't mind it since he's not someone I care about, and I know the comment wasn't serious (it came more from his anti-Wii fanboyism, I say similar ignorant things when joking with friends). Some people are more into the proper public image (maturity, manners or whatever), they're the ones who'd obviously get upset...


I cannot condone what he said. I never saw that part. However, I still agree with his general feeling about the Wii. I'm buying a Wii, myself, but I'm giving it to my mother, since she saw the Nintendo commercials and wants to try out Wii-Fit. It could be a pretty good experience for her.



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Its funny when people are getting upset over a console. Its a console, a plastic box, nothing more.

I agree with him on most parts, i dont think i will eat glass though, i'll play with the wii instead



axumblade said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
axumblade said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Shanobi said:
What the hell is going on here? It's Shia Lebouf, people! Maybe if Laurence Oliviet, or Marlon Brando bashed the Wii, there'd be a reason to freak. But this guy isn't even worthy of Brendan Frasier's hair plugs.

In 5 years, we'll look back on his "career" the same way we wonder what ever happened to Mark Hamill.


I'll make a bet with you that after the Transformers movies are over Shia will be everywhere and still be here five years from now. That guy is a product of what I call the Disney Idol factory. Indiana Jones was a shitty movie, but besides that he's a great actor. Disturbia, Transformers and Eagle eye were great. I mean they weren't five stars, but they were great.

I've liked the movies he's been in so far but I still haven't seen Eagle Eye, is it good enough to buy blindly or should I rent it instead?


The script was ok, but Shia and his co-star made it worth at least watching. Disturbia is the only movie of his that I actually have in my movie collection though. Watch what happens when he starts getting quality scripts outside of Disturbia and Transformers. This kid is going to blow up.

He probably could be big. Also, a douche reputation doesn't always hurt peoples image from hollywood. Look at Russell Crowe, Colin Ferrell, and Mel Gibson. Unless you prove that you truly might be crazy (Tom Cruise) then you can most likely still sell tickets. Hell, even if you are crazy and work your way to "sanity" then you can be considered an A-lister again (Robert Downey Jr.)

Shia, stating that he's a gamer is human enough for me. I hope he doesn't turn out like those douche bags. Tom Cruise is a nut who has lost plenty of his charm from his younger years as far as PR is concerned. Regardless, he's still one of the best actors in Hollywood, so he passes on that alone. Russell Crowe may have temper issues, but he's one of my top three favorite actors. Johnny Depp is the coolest, because I've never seen a guy who is in front of the camera so much, yet hates to be infront of it outside of official recordings. It's like seeing two completely different people.



RDBRaptor said:
Shia LaBeouf, get the F--- OUT OF INDIANA JONES! That's all.

It looks like producers decided to kill poor good ol' Indy by parasitosis : isn't this excessively cruel and violating every international treaty about human rights?  

 



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he should put the console in the closet and play with megan fox :p



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