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Kantor on 13 June 2009
selnor said:
yo_john117 said:
Kantor said:
selnor said:
waron said:
Inside Sim Racing are experts in racing sims(mainly pc, but they do console games some time) and i trust them more than some ign reviewer or sony fanboys cause they know their stuff and they review those games not as any other kind of game but as a racing title.

bout OPM stuff? are you people serious? "i heard that in OXM in November 2011 they will reveal that Forza 4 will be 2x better than Forza 3 and GT5 combined omg Forza 4 is best gem evah"


This.

Inside Racing Sim is all about pure racing titles, the hardest core of the hardcore. Have you Sony boys seen the shop on their site?

They sell the absolute best Simulation gear for racing on PC and consoles. Face it guys, the simulation fans out there dont rate GT that high.

For fuck's sake! Why are you treating it as such a victory that a full game beat an overpriced demo in a comparison?!

Why don't you ask them to do a comparison between Forza 1 and GT4, and see what happens?

i think he's treating it like a victory because there have been many posters on this site that say GT5:P is better than Forza 2, some are opinions, others state it like a fact.

This 100%.

Also @ Kantor

GT5 has been in development since 2004. 2009 all we have seen is a trailer. And if they are adding Full WRC and Nascar like actual career modes ( which to be honest if it isn't it's all pointless when we have Dirt and Nascar games ) then we may not see GT5 till 2012. 3 actual games in one would be like 3 years dev for each. Unless GT5 will be a half hearted game where WRC and Nascar are concerned and just have a few races with those tracks and cars, no career modes, no championship etc.

They said at the start of the comparison, they chose GT5P and Forza2 because they are considered to be the best of the console world. I'm sure they will do F3 versus GT5. But from the words about Forza 3 after playing it at E3 ( see my sig ) I wouldn't hold my breath for GT5 beating Forza 3 from a sim perspective.

2012? Seriously?

Yamauchi said that the game is basically ready, and can be released at any point. He just wants to put polish. Ultimately, I would guess it's Sony's decision, and they'll probably choose for it to release in 2009- especially if they are planning a price cut (30% increase...). They won't be able to find enough to do for a whole year, and releasing a GT game in Spring/Summer is a waste, so holiday 2009 is the only logical option.

SCEJ isn't one for announcing early. Demon's Souls was announced in November 2008, and released in February 2009. Particularly Polyphony Digital- I remember Yamauchi saying that he didn't like giving details too far in advance, as people had seen with GT5P.

I think the people being most annoying through this are Turn 10. I mean, it's one thing for an anonymous poster in a forum to say that Forza 3 will be better than GT5, but for an industry professional to say it...sigh. It's almost on Sony levels of PR fail



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Dgc1808 on 13 June 2009

Some categories seem like sections forza just has to win simply because it's a full game... Like fun factor and car models....



4 ≈ One

Taz! on 13 June 2009

Demo vs Real Game

Funny, I still prefer the demo by a mile. GT 4 Life



vitoaf27 on 13 June 2009
yo_john117 said:
Oniichan said:
yo_john117 you forgot to mention that GT5 has Day & Night cycles as well as weather, liverly editor and paint editor. Probably know more after OPM next month does their preview of GT5.

My bad...i knew there was some stuff that i forgot   But i have a feeling that after OPM does their preview of GT5 that i'll be way more pumped for GT5...here's hoping for a release date or at least a general time frame.


Releasing this holiday season! I'll bet on it!



Carl on 13 June 2009
selnor said:
waron said:
Inside Sim Racing are experts in racing sims(mainly pc, but they do console games some time) and i trust them more than some ign reviewer or sony fanboys cause they know their stuff and they review those games not as any other kind of game but as a racing title.

bout OPM stuff? are you people serious? "i heard that in OXM in November 2011 they will reveal that Forza 4 will be 2x better than Forza 3 and GT5 combined omg Forza 4 is best gem evah"


This.

Inside Racing Sim is all about pure racing titles, the hardest core of the hardcore. Have you Sony boys seen the shop on their site?

They sell the absolute best Simulation gear for racing on PC and consoles. Face it guys, the simulation fans out there dont rate GT that high.

Your head... remove it from your back end.

"simulation fans dont rate GT that high"... it was a fucking PROLOGUE they compared it to... and the PROLOGUE still matched Forza in some aspects, beating it in one.

You need to get a grip.



                            

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coolestguyever on 13 June 2009

Well I would hope for their sake Forza 2 is better than a glorified demo, even if it is GT.

The real question is: will Forza 3 be better than GT5? The answer is no.



yo_john117 on 13 June 2009
player1 said:
yo_john117 said:
player1 said:
@topic
rofl, yeah sure. and my grandpa is Santa Claus :). There is nothing that can match the quailty of Gran Turismo. Never was and never will be.

Watch the video and eat crow son.  Oh and way to look like a total tool...


Gran Turismo will always be No 1 in racing. There is a reason why every racing game is compared to GT not to Forza. Forza has no tradition, it just a "wanna be GT5", nothing more.

Well you said no racing game can reach the quality of GT...and thats totally subjective.   A TRUE racing fan would want to play both games....but your not a true racing fan are you? 



yo_john117 on 13 June 2009
Taz! said:
Demo vs Real Game

Funny, I still prefer the demo by a mile. GT 4 Life

Cause thats all you've ever played



sega4life on 13 June 2009

 

wow... Now people are calling GT5-P a demo???

There were a few threads with endless arguments on how GT5-P was "Not a $39.99 Demo"... but now it is.. go figure..


I own both games and I can say F2 does win over the GT5-P..

I can turn on Forza 2 any time of the day/night and play online.

There were plenty of times I tried getting an online match with GT5-P with no results..

You can have the best race going, be miles ahead of anyone, hit the turn wrong, smash the front end, and can't go over 60mph, that's gameplay..

Customize the shit out of your car so it performs better with more options, that's gameplay..

designing your car so no other person in the world has the same one.. that's just plain bitchen..

 

 



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Samer305 on 13 June 2009

Of course Forza 2 is better then GT5 "Prologue". It better beat the demo. Forza also won in physics because in gt5 the demo when you hit people the cars just bounce and the physics engine is going to have to be completely changed in GT5 because of the inclusion of damage. Forza 2 better be a better game then the demo.

BUT!

GT5 is going to be better than F3. Forza is a dwarf compared to this game. Ok cool forza is out in october but id rather wait for the better game. GT5 now is confirmed to have the WRC license and also has Nascars in it. GT5 now has damage . Those reasons alone make it a better more complete game. This is the reason GT5 will be "better" than F3. Have you seen the graphics on forza 3? All those screenshots were touched up. When all those racing videos were released, you can see all the aliasing in the game becuase that was real footage. One thing I am not liking about the graphics is the shiny plastic look of every car. The lighting is completely off, and not to mention how the grass is showing reflections like it were the street.

I will still play Forza 3 as a racing fan first and enjoy it, but stop kidding yourselfs. GT5>F3.

Seriously why do you think all the turn 10 devs downplay GT5 all the time? They are scared.