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Smashed on 11 June 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
JEDE3 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
yuna01 said:
Forza series has been really good but it isn't in the same league as GT is period. Turn 10 can't make big games so soon it would seem.


Forza 3 was completed witin the two year mark and delivered twice the quality of what Prologue couldn't even give (which took the same amount of time to make. With Turn 10's rate of productivity, they would destroy Gran Turismo if they made a game that took 5 years to make.


how may times do people have to shut your bullshit down until you stop spouting such ignorance?


No one ever shut me down. I gave timelines. If given 5 years to make like GT5, Forza 3 would destroy it in possibly all aspects.

Given another 5 years to make GT5, Turn 10 would shut down their studio, and leave the gaming business forever.



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Carl on 11 June 2009

@ S.T.A.G.E.

So, because they can release now if they wanted, means they are "cocky" ?
Do you realise that having 2 GT games released, in such a short amount of time... would harm sales?
Do you also realise that Sony's Christmas line up, so far... is practically blank?



                            

S.T.A.G.E. on 11 June 2009
Smashed said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
JEDE3 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
yuna01 said:
Forza series has been really good but it isn't in the same league as GT is period. Turn 10 can't make big games so soon it would seem.


Forza 3 was completed witin the two year mark and delivered twice the quality of what Prologue couldn't even give (which took the same amount of time to make. With Turn 10's rate of productivity, they would destroy Gran Turismo if they made a game that took 5 years to make.


how may times do people have to shut your bullshit down until you stop spouting such ignorance?


No one ever shut me down. I gave timelines. If given 5 years to make like GT5, Forza 3 would destroy it in possibly all aspects.

Given another 5 years to make GT5, Turn 10 would shut down their studio, and leave the gaming business forever.

This makes no sense at all because Microsoft is publishing Forza 3. Sony is publishing GT5. Try again.



kanariya on 11 June 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
JEDE3 said:
You are all over the place STAGE. 1. are Alan Wake devs working on other things? If the answer is no the two are not comparable. 2. How are they stalling?


Polyphony's devs already admitted the game could've been released already. Nuff said. Yamuchi is a cocky little fuck. He will keep the game in development as long he wants just because he can. This is his testimony. You guys want to call the guys at Turn 10 cocky? This fucker doesn't care what you think.

Link: http://www1.psu.com/Yamauchi-says-GT5-can-be-released-any-time-we-want--a007497-p0.php

 

Christ are you 14?

If you never did any marketing works you should shut up about the release date.

 

There are many factors other than the completion of the game that affects the release date.
It's the Sony Publishing department that decides the release date for games, not the developer.

 

 



S.T.A.G.E. on 11 June 2009
Carl2291 said:
@ S.T.A.G.E.

So, because they can release now if they wanted, means they are "cocky" ?
Do you realise that having 2 GT games released, in such a short amount of time... would harm sales?
Do you also realise that Sony's Christmas line up, so far... is practically blank?


Actually no....it wont harm sales. It is only upon the company whom they are creating the game  for who can hurt the potential sales. They are just increasing demand for their individual title. Sony must cut the price by 4th quarter.



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darthdevidem01 on 11 June 2009

@STAGE

seriously I don't understand this

you act like your neutral, all the time & everywhere

but then you post & always insult SONY in some way

Thanks for finall proving to me, your definetely not neutral at all

EDIT: Also you & selnor are the only people constantly putting GT5 down on these forums........I wonder why



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

kanariya on 11 June 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Carl2291 said:
@ S.T.A.G.E.

So, because they can release now if they wanted, means they are "cocky" ?
Do you realise that having 2 GT games released, in such a short amount of time... would harm sales?
Do you also realise that Sony's Christmas line up, so far... is practically blank?


Actually no....it wont harm sales. It is only upon the company whom they are creating the game  for who can hurt the potential sales. They are just increasing demand for their individual title. Sony must cut the price by 4th quarter.

 

Dude, it won't harm GT5's sales, but it's gonna make people forget about the PSP Go and GT PSP they were promoting.

Get some common sense man.



S.T.A.G.E. on 11 June 2009
kanariya said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Carl2291 said:

That is... so wrong.

Have you even been following the recent "Forza 3 vs Gran Turismo 5" thing? If anyone is cocky, its the definative Turn 10.

And... as stated above, PD have been working on a number of different projects in this 5 years, so how do you know that GT5 itself has taken 5 years to create?


Turn 10 stripped the game down and started from scratch and was still able to make a superior racing game to GT5 Prelude, which took the same amount of time to make. PD may have been working on a number of projects, but don't you think they could've split the teams up for that? GT5 Prelude was just a taste test for the real thing, because they couldn't finish on time. As for the timeline, I am stating a timeline from 2005 when they started the game to 2010, when GT will most likely go gold. People will be lucky to even purchase the game by Christmas. GT5 Prelude was released in 2007, so that adds up to two years. Every GT game has had added years since the creation of GT3. Look at the release dates. GT PSP was five years in the making. That game was announced in 2004 and has been talked about because of all the delays. After E3 it started recieving positive press, kind of like Alan Wake which got a bat rep because of its inability to launch on time.

 

First, F3 didn't start from scratch. They rebuilt the graphic engine, modeled the cars and tracks. The whole physics engine and many other stuff could be used from Forza2.

 

Where is your source stating PD started the development of GT5 since 2005?

In 2005 they were working on Tourist Trophy after GT4 was done. And probably also was working on GT PSP since they announced it on 2004, half a year before the PSP came out.

They released Tourist Trophy in early 2006. I guess around that time they received the PS3 development kit (the media got the first kit on Aug 2006, 3 months before the PS3 launched). AND then they started the whole next GT thing some time around mid 2006 and released the GT:HD on late 2006 as a vision/tech demo/whatever.

Other than developing GT5, they also hosted numerous GT events like GT Academy and Gran Turismo Awards, and annually for the Gran Turismo Award. They were also designing the multifunction monitor the the Nissan GT-R, co-developing the GT by Citroen, making promotional videos for Ferrari California, etc.

 

They were doing much more than you think. They're making the game to archieve their passion and vision, not making the game to beat the deadline and kill the competition.

OOps! Yamuchi revealed in 2008 that the GT5 took four years to make with over 150 team members. In essence the game has been in development since 2004 and so that makes it six years.

source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gran_Turismo_5



kanariya on 11 June 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
kanariya said:

 

First, F3 didn't start from scratch. They rebuilt the graphic engine, modeled the cars and tracks. The whole physics engine and many other stuff could be used from Forza2.

 

Where is your source stating PD started the development of GT5 since 2005?

In 2005 they were working on Tourist Trophy after GT4 was done. And probably also was working on GT PSP since they announced it on 2004, half a year before the PSP came out.

They released Tourist Trophy in early 2006. I guess around that time they received the PS3 development kit (the media got the first kit on Aug 2006, 3 months before the PS3 launched). AND then they started the whole next GT thing some time around mid 2006 and released the GT:HD on late 2006 as a vision/tech demo/whatever.

Other than developing GT5, they also hosted numerous GT events like GT Academy and Gran Turismo Awards, and annually for the Gran Turismo Award. They were also designing the multifunction monitor the the Nissan GT-R, co-developing the GT by Citroen, making promotional videos for Ferrari California, etc.

 

They were doing much more than you think. They're making the game to archieve their passion and vision, not making the game to beat the deadline and kill the competition.

OOps! Yamuchi revealed in 2008 that the GT5 took four years to make with over 150 team members. In essence the game has been in development since 2004 and so that makes it six years.

source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gran_Turismo_5

 

So who made Tourist Trophy and GT PSP?

If everyone has been working on GT5 since 2004.



S.T.A.G.E. on 11 June 2009
kanariya said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Carl2291 said:
@ S.T.A.G.E.

So, because they can release now if they wanted, means they are "cocky" ?
Do you realise that having 2 GT games released, in such a short amount of time... would harm sales?
Do you also realise that Sony's Christmas line up, so far... is practically blank?


Actually no....it wont harm sales. It is only upon the company whom they are creating the game  for who can hurt the potential sales. They are just increasing demand for their individual title. Sony must cut the price by 4th quarter.

 

Dude, it won't harm GT5's sales, but it's gonna make people forget about the PSP Go and GT PSP they were promoting.

Get some common sense man.

Do not insult my intelligence, because I quite frankly do not care to insult yours. I respect your opinion, despite not being in agreement. Not everyone who owns PS3 owns a PSP, so it doesn't always correlate. GT PSP will be the main selling point of the PSP go at its launch. It will STILL possibly be the highest selling PSP game. GT's sales purely depends upon peoples value in the PS3 at its price point and the GT series thus far.