By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Gaming - G4's Big Announcement???

Omac said:
So I take it none of you like xbox.

It's just that back before E3 06' those guys were all over Sony and against everyone else, but things changed. The truth is they love whoever's the market leader. So right now they're nuts over Nintendo and Microsoft. However the fanboys seem to think MS is paying them to say nice things. 



Love the product, not the company. They love your money, not you.

-TheRealMafoo

Around the Network

How naive this community can be. Every new channel, or young channel has growing pains. They have limited resources to draw upon, and they have to experiment to find things that work. Anyone remember when the Cartoon Network, the SciFi network, or Comedy Central launched. The programming was based around syndication, and very old retread comedies. Talking about shows decades old, and they could only generate perhaps one or two new series a year. They had no self generated back libraries to work off of. All their content was second hand. Now look at these networks. They are a far cry from the lack luster creatures they spawned as. Be warned as the industry grows, and these networks mature your views will change.

I hate to break it to those with a serious Sony bias, but you do not make up the majority of viewers, and not because G4 has a bias. There are only two million of you compared to seven million 360 owners. There are only two million of you compared to five million Wii owners. The 360 will get the lion share of coverage by being the most popular hardcore system. Further more your console of choice is falling behind in sales.

They are serving the majority of their demographic the best. Your a niche audience, and your going to get niche attention until things change. Do you think it was magically different when the PS2 was utterly dominant? Your console represents less then twenty percent of the domestic market. Further more that percentage is shrinking. Why cater to you any more then what fair coverage demands. Just enough to pay some attention.

You have to be realistic and sensible about these things. The PS3 is the seventh gaming machine in rank on the market. You have Wii, 360, DS, PSP, PS2, PC, all having higher priority due to consumer support. That is going to leave very little time for the PS3 to get any coverage. Hell the PS3 due to its contention in the console wars probably gets more attention then its sales rank justifies.

Hell its like your complaining that your kids peewee league baseball team is not getting the same level of national attention as this years world series champs. Can you see how moronic that is? This is not about being fair this is about what the majority of viewers want to see, and chances are thats not the PS3.

I would toss out a few guesses now that I have vented.

1. They announce Kotor 3, or Kotor online most likely for the 360.
2. They announce that MGS4 will also launch on the 360.
3. They announce Nintendos big secret games a First party RPG, or Starfox.



Goddbless said:

the fanboys seem to think MS is paying them to say nice things.


That people would suspect it says something about the company.



And I've been watching G4 since it came on and Sony WAS on top, they still only had nice things to say for MS. As in 75 percent of the time on the air was devoted to xbox, despite it being DISTANT second in the race at that point. 5 minutes for MGS4 and 5 hours for Halo 3? I could understand more air time for Halo 3 than MGS4, but not by THAT much.



                                   

Apostrovich you do realize that MGS4 is probably over six months from launch. While Halo 3 was five hours from launch. Imminence takes precedence. Further more the TGS is a slightly less relevant show for western audiences. Seeing as many games shown there are far from western markets or will never reach them. Further more Nintendo did not attend. So four hours is pretty decent coverage. Giving an extensively covered title as opposed to new titles five minutes of air time is also reasonable. Everyone has seen MGS4 presentations five or six times by now. Talk about beating a dead horse.



Around the Network

Dude, the demo was playable. They could have at least devoted the time it took to complete the demo to the game. Even if you were going to buy Halo 3, why would you need to watch a FIVE HOUR special on it? All that is is more needless hype. One hour would have been more than sufficient. In addition to the fact that MS held their own conference before TGS, so technically Halo 3 wasn't even really part of TGS, but they devoted a half hour or more of each episode to it anyway.

Also you cannot tell me that game needs so much attention from a cable network when even people with no TV can see ads for Halo. Everybody who filled up their car at a 7/11 in the last month knows about Halo 3.

And why bother televising any of TGS, while we're at it? MS had like two games there, Nintendo wasn't even present. Why bother showing up when the majority of the games there were shown for the least popular system? The entire channel is supposed to be about games, not games that are for the most popular console or only the games popular in this country. 



                                   

Apostrovich since you seem largely ignorant of the process let me explain it to you. G4 probably had half a dozen guys on the floor at most. That would be three crews one reporter and one camera man. These wonderful guys then have to follow a rigorous schedule. They have set times to be at set places, and they have to make the best use of the time in between to get the best secondary stories that they can. You do realize standing in a line for four hours behind dozens of people just to film a television screen which will show up poorly, and further more discredit the sound due to ambient noise, and the inane banter of a booth babe. Well that would have been a heinous waste of their time.

While you obsess about a single game that launches half a year from now, and might very well stand in that long line. We are talking about professionals who take their jobs serious enough to do them well. With the time you blew on that demo they would have tracked down half a dozen golden interviews, caught a dozen lower key games, and found some wonderful human interest stories in the process. In other words you would come back to the office with ten minutes of footage while these guys came back with two hours of footage. Enough footage in fact to fill up many programs, and augment programs months down the line as games they filmed at the show near release dates.

Halo 3 is a damned phenomena, and you know what I bet you that coverage paid dividends for them in the ratings, and thus they made more money from the coverage. While I sat in line to buy my copy every guy who came to the line was talking about the game coverage on television. That means they were watching one of those channels. You hate the hype fine, but the people at G4 were making use of one of the major gaming events of the year to great effect. Hell they seemed to have gotten you to watch too fuming all the while.

Why film the Microsoft press conferences. Why the hell not they were convenient, and their was no conflict issues. You go into a room you place a camera you then sit back for a couple hours. Thats called low investment high reward.

For your last comment the channel is about catering to a audience which happens to be in a specific market. So their coverage will lean towards what interests that audience. Were they not doing that it would be a case of poor journalism. Know your audience satisfy their needs, and tend to their wants. Why film the TGS the question is why not. There are bound to be a few good stories to be had for a ticket and a few guys on the ground. I am sure they got their moneys worth even if it was a few interviews and first looks at games that might be coming to western markets.



lol I did not watch that monster waste of airtime. I knew it was on, and seeing as I already have been reading about and watching previews for Halo 3 for a couple of freaking YEARS, I saw no reason to watch an extra five hours of interviews and game clips. As I said, if it had been an hour long, I could have understood that. Big game, lots of money, MS's deep pockets, but five hours? The fucking Super Bowl hardly gets that much attention. Also thank you for giving about five good points supporting my hypothesis that G4 is a money grubbing videogame scam designed to advertise stupid crap to our demographic. I watch them for one reason. Occasionally they get a scoop. More often than not it's a scam scoop about something we already knew about, but hey.



                                   

Hmm MGS4 going to Xbox would be an huge announcement, epic. But I thought that rumor was already quashed?

Price cut isn't a big announcement so doubt its that.

Maybe a new game being announced? But that doesn't sound epic at all.

.....definitely sounds like a franchise jumping from one console to another, most likely to the 360.

Or a company being bought out?

This better be good.



Vote for Ron Paul 2008

Only Anti-War and Anti-Taxes Republican

Freedom is a message everyone can embrace!

Words Of Wisdom said:
IllegalPaladin said:
X-play and Cheat are probably the only shows I'd want to watch as they actually talk about video games and will give reviews. While one may agree or disagree with the reviews, it's still a way to find out more information about a game.

Attack of the Show is what I based my first post in this thread with.

Attack of the Show...  You can feel that show sucking the brain out through your nose as you watch. 

Oh TechTV, how we miss you...  Screensavers, you will be remembered.


 oh the screensavers was the greatest show they had and to change it into AOTS was crap. i stopped watching after that i mean cmon leo and pat was awesome i learned much more from them and call for help then anything g4 has now.



dick cheney loves me, he wants to take me hunting

 

mkwii code- 1977-0565-0049