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psrock on 30 May 2009

Looks fine to me, it better have touchscreen.



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Lostplanet22 on 30 May 2009

Brett is going to have a hard time to get now sales numbers of new PSP games.



 

woopah on 30 May 2009

right, so we basically know much of Sony's E3 already lol. not only do we know about the new psp model and new ps3 model but we also know all the software that will accomany it (this year at least) i guess the most important reveal now is the price



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hunter_alien on 30 May 2009
Lostplanet22 said:
Brett is going to have a hard time to get now sales numbers of new PSP games.

 

 

Yeah, well for Others its not an issues, because that region is terrible innacurate anyways. The only difference will be that if a game is released then the opening will be even lower because of all the gamers whom download the games day 1, and even more PSP SOFTWARE DOOOMDZ threads will apear ;)



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naznatips on 30 May 2009
hunter_alien said:
Lostplanet22 said:
Brett is going to have a hard time to get now sales numbers of new PSP games.

 

 

Yeah, well for Others its not an issues, because that region is terrible innacurate anyways. The only difference will be that if a game is released then the opening will be even lower because of all the gamers whom download the games day 1, and even more PSP SOFTWARE DOOOMDZ threads will apear ;)

Did you ever consider the effects this will have on PSP software sales?

UMDs sell terribly already. So bad that back in 2007 some stores in the US were threatening to stop stocking them. Consider what will happen if a large portion of the already poor sales suddenly goes downloadable. Oops. Suddenly that threat of dropping PSP games becomes real. Retail stock of UMDs will be slim, and smaller games probably won't be stocked at all.

Let's look at another major issue here... pricing. We are looking at a handheld system that will start for at LEAST the Wii retail price. Oh! But wait! It gets worse. Because PSN games never drop in price (unlike good DD services like, say, Steam) you will have to pay full launch retail price ($30-$40) for every PSP game you ever buy. Cost of ownership by that alone more than dobules.

 



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Necromunda on 30 May 2009
volrath50 said:
Noobie said:
Necromunda said:
Munkeh111 said:
@ necromunda, you would have to have that in a PSP 2, because of compatibility with the old PPS for new games

Anyway, it is really growing on me, but there are a couple of things that I need to know
Firstly, will I have to take 2 PSPs with me on holiday if this does not take UMDs... what will I do with those
Secondly, will they sell codes in boxes or will they just go to online only?

Why would you have to wait for that functionality....

Could you not simply support the earlier games by just using the 1 stick over the 2?

And with shooting games and whatnot just support aiming with 2 sticks over 1... it really would be that hard to support that funtionality in a game... I mean it wouldnt take developers long AT ALL to create this option.

Its 100% perfectly easy to do and I still don't know why they are not doing it.

Although i don't think you are going to understand it, but the problem is that if they add another stick then the future games will start using two sticks. So this will make the existing PSPs user base useless. So in fact with a single stroke of ur "genius idea" Sony will manage to make its PSP base go from 50 million to 0 million. The developer will be in paradox whether to use two analog sticks for the game or just one and make the game playable for 50 million users or just less than 1 million. Sony will also alienate its existing user because some new games are not going to run on them and they will definitely be furious.

 

So sony has definitely done the right thing in my view. 

To be fair (although I agree with you that they shouldn't put a second analog stick on until the PSP2), games could be made to use the second analog stick as an option, while falling back on single stick control on a UMD-PSP, similar to how most PS1 games could use either the DualShock or an original PS1 controller. OTOH, upgrading in that case just required buying a new controller, not a whole system.

 

In general though, I do agree that it wouldn't be entierly prudent to add a second analog stick on the PSP Go at this point in time.

Vol this is exactly what im talking about. Also you have to remember, 2 analog sticks is arguably one of the most if not the most wanted feature on the PSP, by current PSP owners and potential owners. And Noobie you have to be kidding me, in your point of view when SONY does, if ever, come out with PSP2 are you going to argue they are alienating all of their current PSP users ? Give me a break. The fact that Sony keeps revising the PSP so much in general is a Joke, they should scrap the Go imo and just make a PSP2 with the features the people want instead of pussyfooting around everything and releasing a new model every year.



Aj_habfan on 30 May 2009

No UMD... worst decision ever! I love the PSP, but will never buy this.



Noobie on 30 May 2009
Necromunda said:
volrath50 said:
Noobie said:
Necromunda said:
Munkeh111 said:
@ necromunda, you would have to have that in a PSP 2, because of compatibility with the old PPS for new games

Anyway, it is really growing on me, but there are a couple of things that I need to know
Firstly, will I have to take 2 PSPs with me on holiday if this does not take UMDs... what will I do with those
Secondly, will they sell codes in boxes or will they just go to online only?

Why would you have to wait for that functionality....

Could you not simply support the earlier games by just using the 1 stick over the 2?

And with shooting games and whatnot just support aiming with 2 sticks over 1... it really would be that hard to support that funtionality in a game... I mean it wouldnt take developers long AT ALL to create this option.

Its 100% perfectly easy to do and I still don't know why they are not doing it.

Although i don't think you are going to understand it, but the problem is that if they add another stick then the future games will start using two sticks. So this will make the existing PSPs user base useless. So in fact with a single stroke of ur "genius idea" Sony will manage to make its PSP base go from 50 million to 0 million. The developer will be in paradox whether to use two analog sticks for the game or just one and make the game playable for 50 million users or just less than 1 million. Sony will also alienate its existing user because some new games are not going to run on them and they will definitely be furious.

 

So sony has definitely done the right thing in my view. 

To be fair (although I agree with you that they shouldn't put a second analog stick on until the PSP2), games could be made to use the second analog stick as an option, while falling back on single stick control on a UMD-PSP, similar to how most PS1 games could use either the DualShock or an original PS1 controller. OTOH, upgrading in that case just required buying a new controller, not a whole system.

 

In general though, I do agree that it wouldn't be entierly prudent to add a second analog stick on the PSP Go at this point in time.

Vol this is exactly what im talking about. Also you have to remember, 2 analog sticks is arguably one of the most if not the most wanted feature on the PSP, by current PSP owners and potential owners. And Noobie you have to be kidding me, in your point of view when SONY does, if ever, come out with PSP2 are you going to argue they are alienating all of their current PSP users ? Give me a break. The fact that Sony keeps revising the PSP so much in general is a Joke, they should scrap the Go imo and just make a PSP2 with the features the people want instead of pussyfooting around everything and releasing a new model every year.

why make such a radical change when they are definitely going to release PSP 2 in couple of yrs.. i think the better decission is add all these new features in new PSP.. rather than incrementally increase PSP



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richardhutnik on 30 May 2009
Noobie said:
 

Although i don't think you are going to understand it, but the problem is that if they add another stick then the future games will start using two sticks. So this will make the existing PSPs user base useless. So in fact with a single stroke of ur "genius idea" Sony will manage to make its PSP base go from 50 million to 0 million. The developer will be in paradox whether to use two analog sticks for the game or just one and make the game playable for 50 million users or just less than 1 million. Sony will also alienate its existing user because some new games are not going to run on them and they will definitely be furious.

 

So sony has definitely done the right thing in my view. 

In regards to this comment about a second analog stick, let me comment on a few things:

1. The Genesis, during its lifespan, introduced a new controller that had 6 buttons for it.  There was an option provided for games with 3 or 6 buttons.

2. The original Playstation added analog sticks at the bottom.  Again, as time went on, the option to support both controllers are there.

3. How exactly does dropping the UMD NOT alienate the current base?  It does. 

The reality is that a second analog stick would help out a LOT here with 3D shooting games, and other 3D games.

 

It appears that Sony fanboys are all drooling over this, but let me point out the issues here as I see them:

1. The analog stick placement looks ackwardly placed.  It is nearly in the middle of the system.

2. There is no UMD.  This means anyone with a current PSP, so why would a person buy this new unit who already has a PSP?  Unlike the DSi, which plays all current DS games, this system doesn't play current PSP games.

3. The screen is left exposed.  The issue of scuffing when not playing is still not resolved.  The DS has the approach where the screen is protected.

 

On the plus side, the system may end up costing less then the current PSP, and may end up with much better battery life.  Also, load times can stand to be reduced also.

 

The PSP Go is a GREAT test for whether you are a Sony Fanboy.  If you defend the unit, think it is awesome and did everything right, you likely are.  If you don't see the issues with it, and don't have reservations, you defintely are.  If the said released titles for it get you all goosebumpy, odds are you are a Sony Fanboy.



Aj_habfan on 30 May 2009

"If the said released titles for it get you all goosebumpy, odds are you are a Sony Fanboy."

WHAT! You can't call all people that are excited for Metal Gear and Gran Turismo Sony fanboys.