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Zizzla_Rachet on 26 May 2009
Legend11 said:
CrazzyMan said:
@Legend11, in NA PS3 still cost 399$, while main x360 model cost 299$ -that`s a mass market price + Arcade model even cheaper - 199$(this takes some momentum from, when x360 60Gb model gets to 199$ price point).
x360 is outselling PS3 in NA for now, BUT not for like 2x time. It`s like 10-15k per week.
Yeah, x360 has that lead of 8 mln., that`s why x360 hasn`t lost NA, so far.

@Zizzla_Rachet, UK? where difference between main x360 60Gb model and PS3 80Gb is almost 2x time? I`m not even mention Arcade model.
UK will be done after PS3 pricecut and GT5.

You missed my point this time, i was speaking about x360 60Gb Pro model in that post, not the Arcade for 199$.


I guess you missed my question.  How large would the gap have to be before you called North America in the 360's favor?


he also never answered my question



 



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twesterm on 26 May 2009
Zizzla_Rachet said:
Legend11 said:
CrazzyMan said:
@Legend11, in NA PS3 still cost 399$, while main x360 model cost 299$ -that`s a mass market price + Arcade model even cheaper - 199$(this takes some momentum from, when x360 60Gb model gets to 199$ price point).
x360 is outselling PS3 in NA for now, BUT not for like 2x time. It`s like 10-15k per week.
Yeah, x360 has that lead of 8 mln., that`s why x360 hasn`t lost NA, so far.

@Zizzla_Rachet, UK? where difference between main x360 60Gb model and PS3 80Gb is almost 2x time? I`m not even mention Arcade model.
UK will be done after PS3 pricecut and GT5.

You missed my point this time, i was speaking about x360 60Gb Pro model in that post, not the Arcade for 199$.


I guess you missed my question.  How large would the gap have to be before you called North America in the 360's favor?


he also never answered my question

I would have thought you two would understand by now he never answers any valid points.



 

slowmo on 26 May 2009

"History will look back on this as being the greatest comback in history of console sales wars."

No history will look back on this as a case study of how not to run a business. They've managed to bleed cash Sony couldn't afford making the product viable, they've thrown away a huge advanatage of brand loyalty, they've lost ground in every single market globally, finally they completely misjudged the pricepoint that customers would pay for their product.  The only positive the PS3 really brought short term to Sony was Bluray won the HD format war, which has proven a hollow victory given the global economy has taken a nose dive at a terrible time for emergent technologies to experience rapid growth.

Assuming that everything goes to plan as the OP thinks, the best Sony can do from this generation is finishing a distant second and perhaps come close to making back a small amount of the huge losses they've incurred.

Can we not just stop with these silly threads and just admit, it doesn't matter which HD console finishes where, both have built a big enough userbase to be a sustainable market for third party developers.



Garnett on 26 May 2009

@

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god bless japan because thats the PS3's savour,as for the wii its got the buzz,because it did something new this gen and nintendo loyalists



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chapset on 26 May 2009

wow!!! that's a long OP to say nothing bravo mate



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CrazzyMan on 26 May 2009
richardhutnik said:
Why is the 360 sales going to suddenly take a nosedive when the PS3 is $100 cheaper? Like, it is supposed to tail off by at least 50%? Only reason why it might is that the major sellers are multiplatform games, and the PS3 ends up being less expensive. However, why won't Microsoft also slash prices and still be less expensive?

GC was selling for 99$, this didn`t help against PS2. Just understand, that after reaching mass market PRICE(249-299$), other pricecut won`t have THAT big longterm effect, as entering to mass market price.

@Legend11, PS2 is ahead in NA of any console this gen. SO what?
The point, is having a BIG gap and continue OUTSELLING competitor by A LOT, like a Wii for example. x360 is not doing that. That`s why it hasn`t won NA, neither lost.



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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

Zizzla_Rachet on 26 May 2009
CrazzyMan said:
richardhutnik said:
Why is the 360 sales going to suddenly take a nosedive when the PS3 is $100 cheaper? Like, it is supposed to tail off by at least 50%? Only reason why it might is that the major sellers are multiplatform games, and the PS3 ends up being less expensive. However, why won't Microsoft also slash prices and still be less expensive?

GC was selling for 99$, this didn`t help against PS2. Just understand, that after reaching mass market PRICE(249-299$), other pricecut won`t have THAT big longterm effect, as entering to mass market price.

@Legend11, PS2 is ahead in NA of any console this gen. SO what?
The point, is having a BIG gap and continue OUTSELLING competitor by A LOT, like a Wii for example. x360 is not doing that. That`s why it hasn`t won NA, neither lost.


You think -$ony can keep up with Microsoft's Bundle stratergy?



 



gergroy on 26 May 2009

@ps3beats360

don't you get bored of talking about the same subject/argument all the time? Do you only think about one thing? You would think after making several threads about the same subject you would have beaten it into the ground, but nope. Here we are again, same subject as pretty much every thread you have ever made.

*sigh* there just isn't hope for some people.



TX109 on 26 May 2009
Smashchu2 said:
TX109 said:
i cant ever see the PS3 beating the 360, it has a better library, it's got some good exclusives comeing, and why do you hate the 360 anyway? i only see the PS3 shortening the gap, not destroying it.

No, its the consumer and their money who determine what is good and what is bad. It is their choice on what games they find enjoyable. Though this, they make that company money so it can produce more games,. The company with games that dont sell do not push their product further and will go out of business or fall behind.

Think of it as natural selection. Except the selection is done by what consumers desire.

By this, the 360 has a better library becuase it has more million sellers and higher selling ones. There is content the consumer wants.

so are you agreeing or disagreeing with me?



                                                                                                  
Thechalkblock on 26 May 2009

It doesn't matter, the next gen of consoles will be out soon enough.