Its also a type of music.

I'll agree with you if you're talking about hardcore punk. 

Of course, and I understand that my english is a crap:

This statment is correct, but if a person play Killzone 2 (a hardcore game) just to beat the game and this person don't want to know about the ps3, or this person don't want to deepen himself in the game or in the console, this person is casual, harcore or just a "gamer"?

No game makes you casual or hardcore, the time spent playing games makes you hardcore, understanding your hobby makes you hardcore.

If that guy played Killzone 2 and loved it and went out and bought more games like it, then over time he would be considered a hardcore gamer. He would likely start going to websites to learn more about his new hobby.

If i play Zuma that would not make me a casual gamer. If all i played was Zuma, and i quit going to video game websites and following the industry, then that would make me a casual gamer.

Its like when 2 people go see Ironman, one is familiar with comics and Ironman, the other has never heard of Ironman before the movie. They both will probably enjoy the movie, but the one that knew Ironman will have been better equiped with backstory of the characters and he will get the subtle hints and references in the movie (Warmachine, S.H.I.L.D., Nick Fury, ect).

To state it again, the games that you play don't make you hardcore, knowledge and understanding of the hobby makes you hardcore.

Hardcore is not a dirty word like a lot of the users on VGCharts makes it out to be.

'Hardcore' exists as a way of seperating out games you don't like. "Oh, man, what was the best selling game last week?" "Wii Fit" "Doesn't count. It's casual. Bunch of idiots. What's the best selling real game?" "Blood Guts Kill McDeath: Killvengeance 2: The Deadening Blood"

There were casual games in the PS2 generation, and in the N64/PS1 generation, and in SNES and NES generation. Hell, one of the first games I ever played was a Sesame Street matching game for the NES when I was, like, 5. Nobody cared back then, because those games weren't selling better than the big-budget, 'hollywood' 500 hours-of-nonsense-story games.

Hardcore and Casual has nothing to do with the games you play.

It's how much you play, and your general attitude towards gaming.

Person 1 owns 20 games on his console, plays often, posts on a gaming forum, and knows a fair bit about the industry.

Person 2 owns 5 games, plays for a couple of hours a week, rarely goes onto gaming websites. He doesn't know a lot about who is making his games.

Even if Person 1 owns Carnival Games, Wii Fit, Deca Sports and similar games, and Person 2 owns GTA4, CoD4, MGS4, Killzone 2 and Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Person 1 is hardcore, Person 2 is casual.

That's what I think, anyway.

In my opinion? He's a casual.

I have never played a game for 500 hours, and it's actually the hardcore games that tend to be shorter.

A hardcore game has nothing to do with hardcore gamers. A hardcore game is generally violent in nature, and appeals to the main demographic of gaming (young males).